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I have a dead body.
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When you did see the body, what was your impression of what had happened?
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Disgott sessions.
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There was rage involved in it.
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Absolute horror that somebody could be treated that way.
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The body had been wrapped in plastic sheeting.
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It was a man and his head had been covered and duct taped as well. and his body had been burned.
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And they're like, what?
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We found your son.
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He is deceased.
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It was like somebody punched me in the gut.
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At this point, police are scrambling for clues.
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Anything that might lead them to Scott's sessions killer.
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We've got to go friends.
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You've got to help with your hacker there.
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He became very jealous.
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We get really angry.
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When they find a guy like him that they fall for,
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then they got to start really making it.
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And he was not a big change.
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You meet somebody that you think might be a great person
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to start dating, and then all of a sudden your life is gone.
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But before it's all over, there will be a second body.
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It's hard to hide blood when it's everywhere.
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We had a sold out two-night concert at Candelite Dinner Playhouse.
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It was February 10th, 2020, it was a Monday night.
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Scott Sessions, who is in my Elvis tribute band, he was a trumpet player.
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I had been promising Scott for months that I would make it to one of his gigs.
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We bought our tickets the minute they went on sale and I was going to get to see Scott
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play for the first time in forever.
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It was pretty exciting.
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As he got closer and closer to start time, Scott wasn't there.
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It was weird because Scott had failed to show up for the gig.
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Something Scott doesn't do.
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He was always ridiculously early to the gig and always ready to go, dressed looking good.
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When the curtain opened and he wasn't there, we thought, well, maybe he'll show up in
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a little bit and if I remember correctly, it was starting to snow.
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It was snowy, it was cold, Scott didn't show up.
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You know, in the back of my mind, I had a bad feeling.
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We were all trying to figure out what had happened.
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Our story begins here in Greeley, Colorado.
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It's about an hour north of Denver and its community built on cattle, oil, and agriculture,
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but one that has a thriving blue scene.
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We call a red.
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We're about 115,000 people, primarily agriculture.
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We have been known for our beef in this area forever.
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People are friendly and it has a small town feel.
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We're located in this pristine little valley where we have the best of both worlds.
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He played his trumpet at some of the local bars here.
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But some say that his personality played louder than his horn.
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He started playing probably age or nine.
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There's a picture with a trumpet holding it across his chest.
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I'm probably age or nine.
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There's a picture with that trumpet holding it across his chest.
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That trumpet's bigger than he is.
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His high school teacher said, hey,
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you ought to play in the jazz group.
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And I think at that time, he really
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started to get interested in playing the trumpet.
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When he put that trumpet to his lips was,
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Whew.
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I've known Scott since high school.
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We've been friends for the last 40 years.
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He always wanted everybody to be happy and to get along.
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He was a very caring person.
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He cared about people, cared about helping others out.
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Scott was very much a people person.
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He was just a good guy.
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Music made him larger than life.
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He was always on.
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There was no off switch with Scott's sessions.
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He was very loud and explosive personality,
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and that's what made him great on stage.
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He played the trumpet in a Denver-based band called
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The Movers and Shakers.
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His song is called High Rod Helen.
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It's incredible when you watch video of Scott performing.
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When he was up on stage, he had the facial expressions.
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He had body movement, like when he was really hit,
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those high notes would be kind of crutched down.
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And you got the look on their face. he really got into the music. ["Scarter's Presses on the Jumping Dollars!"
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Scott and I met in January of 2018 at a gig of his.
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He was nice and thin and in shape and, you know,
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he had this, you know, strong arms and, yeah, his, he was very cute.
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Scott's former girlfriend agreed to do an interview,
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but she asked that we not use her name.
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Scott's a really good at love and he's good at expressing love.
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He's really good with his words, and he would sing me songs.
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He'd just all those romantic things.
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When Scott played up on stage, you know, when I grabbed his butt
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or tried to kiss him, I always called him fan girls.
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Our band, the Movers and Shakers,
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it just exploded out of the gates.
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They were competing in competitions and winning them,
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and they were really beginning to go somewhere.
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When my band started to do bigger concerts,
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we added a horn section, and Scotty was my trumpet player for many years.
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Best trumpet player, Mr. Scott Session-Benz.
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He loved live performances.
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Scott loved being up on stage.
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He loved being part of a group of musicians.
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Scott could lose his left leg and he would still show up to a gig.
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Scott was always known to be reliable.
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So it stunned his friends and bandmates
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when he didn't show up for his sold out concert.
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It was Tuesday morning.
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I get a call from George Gray and I said,
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hey, Scott didn't make it to the gig last night.
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And he said, well, that's strange.
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It turns out that's not the only thing he missed.
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They had made plans to go see his mom.
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His mom wasn't doing well with her health.
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He never came out and I didn't give it any thought.
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Those guys stayed up late or something.
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When he thought maybe he just slept in,
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I said, I'm going to go over to his house and see if he's OK.
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And George said, I'm kind of really worried about him.
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I know something might have happened.
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His father met me there.
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Sorry, checked in the garage, and Scottie's car was not there.
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The snow hadn't been shoveled.
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The cat hadn't been fed.
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Scott was very particular about taking care of his cat.
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It was the one thing that could get him to leave a party as if his cat needed attention.
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Something was clearly wrong.
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There'd been a snowstorm.
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Maybe he went off the road somewhere where he was going for a drive in the mountains.
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I went to the police department and filed a missing persons report. and that was about new niches.
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As that day went on,
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and we were all putting stuff on Facebook and texting his number.
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Hey man, we're getting worried about you, you know,
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what's going on, you know, we're concerned.
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I got a phone call from the police department.
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He said, would you be willing to come in?
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The detective would like to visit with you.
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I'm on the Pingri Park Road. and I have a dead body.
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I'm in Pudrecadien in the heart of the Colorado Rockies.
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It was just down there that a snow-plow driver
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sees something smoldering burning up on the hillside.
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I'm on the Pingri Park Road.
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road at the monument goch exit and I have a dead body. Okay we'll get help on the
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way are you able to provide any details? Well there was a tree on fire and I went up to
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put it out and he's laying next to it. Okay and you believe he's got any help? Yeah he's definitely passed away.
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He thought somebody had been out there camping and had left a campfire.
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And so he was going to go throw some snow on it and make sure that he put out
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whatever fire was there. When he got close to the plume of smoke that's when he
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realized this was a body. The body had been wrapped in plastic
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It was a man and his head had been covered and duct taped as well.
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He was found next to a smoldering log and his body had been burned.
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Driving out here, this is as remote as it gets.
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The nearest store, much less house, miles and miles away.
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Everywhere around us is just trees, forest, and snow.
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Detective Justin Atwood took me to the very spot where that snow cloud driver made the deadly discovery.
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So he literally walked up this pretty steep embankment here from down below.
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Exactly.
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Clambers up here to this smoldering log.
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Absolutely.
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And then get surprised when he realizes that there's a body.
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It shocked him. It scared him.
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It had been intentionally burned.
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It had been wrapped in plastic.
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And that plastic had been bound in duct tape.
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I got a phone call from the police department.
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They said the detective would like to visit with you.
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I should have known something was not right on the Sunday morning when he didn't come to the gold seaside.
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We wanted to make sure that we made contact with Stan as soon as possible.
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So it was about 4.35 o'clock when they...
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The detective said we found your son.
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He is deceased.
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Standing immediately broke the news of Scott's death to his ailing wife.
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She said,
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who would want to kill my Scotty?
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It's a very difficult thing to tell somebody that their loved ones deceased. emotionally it's difficult.
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And really the music community is one of the last of a gift to trumpet player.
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Sessions was found dead on February 10th by a snow cloud driver in Bellevue.
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Mr. Sessions was ultimately identified with a fingerprint reader during the course of the autopsy.
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If you've been to a local bar that plays rock or soul recently, there's a good chance you've heard Scott Sessions on trumpet.
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Sessions' body was found alongside a road in Bellevue.
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He was a person.
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You know, I had a soul, I had a smile, I had a laugh.
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He was real, I mean, it's hard to describe.
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And now, you know, he's just a body.
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George Caldon said that they had found a body
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and a remote area of the mountains outside of Fort Collins.
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And my wife and I looked at each other and thought,
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no way, no, that's not Scott, a champion.
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He was found deceased, almost decapitated, and that his body was lit on fire.
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When you did see the body, what was your impression of what had happened?
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Disgott sessions.
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It was very deliberate.
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There was rage involved in it.
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Absolute horror that somebody could be treated that way.
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And then disposed of that way.
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No one deserves that.
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You don't get a lot of murders in Laramor County.
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No.
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And here you have a body that's almost decapitated.
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Yes.
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This is probably the worst I've ever seen.
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It was like somebody had punched me in the gut.
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There was a lot of regret that I hadn't made it to a gig sooner.
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A lot of regret that the world had just lost a very amazing man.
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We didn't know at that time who would have killed him.
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Something had to go terribly wrong.
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OK, so where are we?
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We're out in front of Scott Sessions' residence in Greeley, Colorado.
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This is where he lived prior to his death.
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We came here to serve a search warrant.
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What kinds of things were you looking for?
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Well, the first thing that we're looking for is the scene of the disturbance.
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It was a, your standard bachelor pad, single guy living in there.
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It was fairly clean.
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It had some clutter to it and stuff like that.
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We were looking for blood, was his vehicle parked in the garage.
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We tried to find a cell phone.
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One of the major things that we were looking for was his trumpet.
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The instrument that he played in the van
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because he never went anywhere without that trumpet.
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One theory was that Scott has been robbed and killed for his trumpet.
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We were told that it was a very expensive trumpet.
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We started looking on databases, pawn shops,
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to try and find if there was a trumpet that was identical
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to Scots that would have been sold.
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And we actually found his trumpet in his house.
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It was in a closet.
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It ended up turning out to be a dead end.
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Investigators press on desperate for clues
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that could point to a motive or the killer.
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They were kind of at a loss.
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They didn't have a suspect.
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It was important that investigators
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find out everything they could about their victim,
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Scott Sessions.
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I was the last person he talked to before he died.
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They get this call on the Saturday evening and he said,
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Dad,
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I'm back home and I have a date tonight.
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There are these in water or something?
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No, but okay.
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So obviously they began questioning his friends and his family, including Scott's father Stan.
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Well, obviously this is a difficult time for you and your family.
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Yes, we want to be as respectful as possible,
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but we also need to get to the bottom of what's going on.
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He was an emotional guy and if he fell in love with a woman, he went clear to the core.
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There was no woman back and this is a kind of a flaw.
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For long term girlfriends, he had an elevator at record there.
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He had a difficult relationship with a girlfriend that lived in Greeley.
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There was documented contacts with law enforcement and there was a restraining order that was in the system.
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Scott had several tumultuous past relationships,
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and detectives wondered if one of them might have a motive to murder the popular musician.
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One day after Scott's body is found, his car appears out of nowhere.
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To wish this person driving a dead man's car.
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Whenever you have a case that's big like this,
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you start working it, you start living it.
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everything that you do was nothing but the case.
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This was my first assigned homicide.
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There was a huge team that came together to work in this case.
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So we kind of prepared, did not get any sleep
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for the next four or five days.
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In situations like this, there's a lot of stuff that you need to start doing.
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We started reaching out to his friends.
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Does he have any new associates?
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Anybody that nobody knows about?
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Does he have a secret girlfriend that nobody knows about type thing.
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There was a lot of things that we needed to do.
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While interviews with some key witnesses are happening, another set of investigators
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are busy analyzing data from local cell phone towers.
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What they're trying to do is pinpoint
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exactly where Scott Sessions may have spent the final moments of his life.
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The cell phone provider was constantly retrieving data from your phone.
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It's sending data to the cell phone provider
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as to the location of that phone.
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Those records will also tell you last made phone calls,
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last received phone calls, or last known telephone numbers that you sent a message to.
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That tower is going to capture specific data.
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Scott's cell phone last pinked three miles away from his house in Greeley, Colorado.
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That was the last location where Scott's cell phone had been prior to his death.
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At this point, police are scrambling for clues.
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Anything that might lead them to Scott Sessions killer, they have cops canvassing neighborhoods,
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and they find Scott's car here, right across from that King supers.
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It looked like somebody else had driven Scott's car,
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intentionally left it in the parking lot
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of the supermarket with the keys in it.
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One thing that was unusual was one of the floor mats
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from Scott's vehicle was found underneath the vehicle.
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When the vehicle was originally located
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and that floor mat was also processed for potential blood evidence.
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It tested positive on a screening test for blood.
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However, we were unable to get a DNA profile on that stain.
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It was pretty evident to us that this was a vehicle dump.
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Police pulled surveillance video from the King Super supermarket and surrounding businesses, including an urgent care.
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They were able to see the car pull into the parking lot.
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They were able to see somebody get out of the driver's side, walk around the car,
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and then ultimately walk away from the car on foot and leave the car in the parking lot.
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And that happened after they had already found Scott's body.
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That was the first video that we had of our potential suspect.
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We needed to talk to every single one of his friends
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and find out who he's been hanging out with.
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Investigators talked to two of Scott's ex-girlfriends.
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Well, obviously we're here because your dear friend, Scott, is best of wing.
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Yeah.
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I like to go out and listen to live music and he's a trumpet player and I met him through
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that, dated for two years and then I broke up with him.
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And so during that relationship you had indicated that there were some troubles and stuff like that?
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He became very jealous.
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We get really angry.
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So I decided for my own safety, I filed a restraining order.
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And that was for three months.
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He's really straight now.
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He's the happiest I've ever seen him.
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That's why this is such a shock.
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A friend of his called me and she said, did you know Scott was missing?
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And I said, no.
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And then her next sentence, while he was murdered, and they're like, what?
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We were on and off, it was pretty tumultuous.
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And so we were seeing each other for little less than two years.
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When you would go do things with him, he'd hold you
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and he put his arm around you.
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I felt so safe and loved when I was with him.
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So this is the last message I ever received from Scott.
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Hey, how's it going?
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I'd love to tell you all about that.
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It was really fun, it was really cool.
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We did really well.
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So anyway, so give me a tolerance.
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So if you have a great date, talk to you soon.
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Bye.
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Little did she know that investigators were already
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eyeing her as a person of interest.
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They were collecting pieces of chewing gum and a hair sample from the ex-girlfriend's trash.
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And there were a series of text messages and a 30-minute phone call between Scott and
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Azx just one day before he went missing.
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So I'm very sorry that we're here.
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And this is going to be a very sensitive topic to discuss.
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We started to identify that there was a recent relationship.
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There was a restraining order that was in the system
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and that they had an argument where the police were called.
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And we knew that per house was in the central part of Greeley.
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We dated consistently until he got arrested until
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life of 15th, 2018 because we're straining order put on him.
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When we had a big fight here at the house,
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we started yelling at each other and he ended up throwing coffee at me.
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I told him to get the F out of my house
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or I was gonna call the police.
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And he left.
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It was pretty agitated when he left,
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but I didn't think much of it.
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I started cleaning up and then the cops showed up
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at the door so he had called the police.
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He reported himself, he thought she would call
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and then I'm gonna get picked up.
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Well, he called me that, picked up anyway.
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He wrote a nice letter to the judge.
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To me, it really wasn't that big of a deal.
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I said, please help Scott resolve this situation.
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And so he solved it and we moved on with it.
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You're talking to him and they're asking questions.
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You can tell they started getting distracted.
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We were in the middle of that interview.
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And we get a knock on the door.
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It was on Valentine's Day and we were out at the Well County Sheriff's Office.
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Investigators are speaking with Scott Sessions, ex-girlfriend.
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This is going to be a very sensitive profit to discuss.
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You know, they'd ask me if I had information on Scott,
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and then I could tell they'd start of getting distracted.
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And then all of a sudden, they just cut the interview short.
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They're like, OK, thank you so much.
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We get a knock on the door.
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And it says, you got to go.
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We got to go right now.
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After hours of questioning, Scott's exes
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police get a new lead, one that would clear his ex-girlfriends of involvement.
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They served a search warrant on the 14th the February on Scott's apartment.
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During that investigation, they actually found passwords.
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I raised down to 35th Avenue in Greeley because we had
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broken into Scott's Facebook Messenger and found out that at the same time that Scott
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was talking to his dad on the phone, Scott was having a Facebook Messenger conversation
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with whom we identified as Heather Frank.
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just a couple of weeks before his murder,
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Scott Sessions met a local Greeley woman named Heather Frank.
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Heather and Scott had exchanged multiple communications via Facebook Messenger.
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They were talking about her attending some of Scott's concerts.
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In particular, she had seen him perform and she liked him.
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It was obvious that they had met in the past.
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Well, we discovered to be the beginning of the story,
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So to speak, January 24th, there was some Facebook communication between Scott and Heather.
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This seemed to be starting or developing between the two and it seemed to be romantic in nature.
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The pair first connected over a shared love of music.
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I met Heather at the clip and that's when Scott met her as well.
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It appeared she was very taken with Scott.
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She was a beautiful woman.
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I remember the look on her face when she was watching Scott.
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You know, he was like, you know, puppy dog, guys.
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Now we are trying to understand Heather Frank's life.
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What is her lifestyle?
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Where does she work?
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There's a lot of stuff that we had to figure out at that point.
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When I met Heather's friends, they described her as a fun, loving, free spirit.
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Tell me how you knew Heather.
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They seen her every two months for haircut in the style.
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And we took her hair from blonde to red,
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and it was like four hour appointments,
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so it's just you and her usually.
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It's interesting in your line of work,
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you become kind of a therapist, right?
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Oh yeah, that's what my business card says,
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hair therapist, you put the hair color on, and the truth serum comes out.
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She's very colorful, and she always had the best clothes.
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She's very friendly, very boisterous, just a happy girl.
28:21:
This is super fun.
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Heather was a mom to three boys.
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where eldest son Alex said the two were inseparable.
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She was pretty much like my best friend and we did everything together.
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My mom and my dad got divorced in 2010
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and after they separated it was kind of rough.
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But us three boys always put a smile on her face.
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She would be there for me when I had Hortons.
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She would just track me out to go do fun things
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and get back in the swing of things.
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She was always blasting music.
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She loved it.
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Every time I come over, we'd always do dance parties, like a little dance house.
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She loved nature.
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She loved going camping.
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She worked as a server over at Doug's day diner.
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People loved her.
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I met Heather at Doug's.
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We worked together every single day for those three years.
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She didn't waste any time.
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I'd been there for a week when she invited me to go out to a concert with her and have
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a really fun night and from that point on it kind of just grew.
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Every Thursday, girls night, we always look forward to that.
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That was our night.
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We'd start out, we go the same place or the same thing and just rank, eat, hang out and have fun.
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And if we got off work early enough, we'd just go walking around downtown Greeley, little
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little hole in the wall bars, just fun times.
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She did tell me that she had met somebody and he placed in a band and she really enjoyed
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going to listen to his music because it was jazz.
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She just said, met somebody and I've been meeting him at this bar.
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It definitely just kind of seemed like an innocent little, I met somebody and I'm gonna hang out with them now.
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I didn't ask too many questions yet.
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I remember meeting Heather.
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He brought her down to one of our gigs in Denver.
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He'd only met her a few weeks prior to when we'd gotten on
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this trip to go down to Memphis.
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He says, oh, there's this new girl that I'm talking to.
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So in the days leading up to his disappearance and murder, what were they exchanging?
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What were they saying in those messages?
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They were very friendly with each other.
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They were making plans to hang out with each other.
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There was a point though on the 8th of February
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where the tone of those messages changed.
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You could actually see the different tone.
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It was more of a, hey, let's connect, let's meet.
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Come over to my house.
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I was a little bit more direct in demanding.
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At this point in the investigation, police are putting the pieces together
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and they realized that the date Scott told his father
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about umbeburi 8th was actually with head of Frank.
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We were seeing that leading up to the last time
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that Scott had a conversation with his dad Stan.
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About 5'30 in the evening, almost 6'clock in the evening
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on February 8th was that he said, hey, dad,
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I found the door that I'm going to.
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And I'll talk to you later.
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I'll see you tomorrow.
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I love you, talk to you later.
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And that was the last conversation
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that we know Scott to ever have.
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By that time they had pulled the phone records for Scott Sessions and they had started to put
31:39:
those pieces of the puzzle together and realized that Scott Sessions' phone had traveled to the area of Heather's apartment.
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It started pinging in the area of Heather's apartment and they also knew that his phone had stayed there overnight.
31:57:
But at that time, the fact that his phone eventually dies in her apartment or gets shut
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off one of the other and they never found his phone was very telling for detectives.
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Police have zeroed in on Heather Frank as the last person to see Scott's sessions alive.
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So we had to be very cautious about what our next steps were. We can't just go storming in there
32:22:
and say, hey Heather, what are you doing? And what happened to Scott? Well I remember very vividly pulling into this cold assack.
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There was a vehicle that was there that had some damage
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to the front of it, and it looked like it had driven in a snow storm.
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It had very, very bright red dirt on the side of it.
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The authorities discovered this security camera footage.
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You can see the car was driving westbound up the canyon, heading towards Pingree Park.
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Where's this car going? and couldn't lead to the killer.
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Investigators seem to be on the right path with Heather Frank,
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and now they need to know more.
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Detectives.
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They can't say for sure that Scott Sessions died at Heather's apartment, but they can start watching behaviors.
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We started writing a cell phone data record warrants for Heather Frank.
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At the same time, we're doing this background check and finding out that
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she had a very difficult relationship with a subject, Kevin Eastman.
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Usually whenever she got a new boyfriend, the first thing she would do is introduce
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us three to the person she was seeing. In the beginning, Kevin, he was always very nice and
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always interested in our lives. Like, how was your day? How'd work go? You know, just trying to become closer with us.
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Kevin is an oil field worker.
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He had worked here in Greeley.
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Kevin was previously married and had a daughter.
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He'd been dating Heather for more than five years.
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Kevin probably proposed that Anno have three or four times.
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She didn't want to be tied to that forever.
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But it is hard as she tried to get away from him.
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It just got harder and harder every time it seemed like.
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There were a number of police reports
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where she had been the victim of domestic violence at the hands of Kevin Eastman.
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She didn't want to continue talking to him,
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but they'd still see each other from time to time.
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But it wasn't until the end of the year of 2019
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when she told us that she had finally told him that she's done.
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Despite telling friends and family,
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otherwise Kevin appeared back in Heather's life in February 2020.
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My mom called and asked if me and my husband and my two brothers would all like to go out and eat.
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And I heard someone whispering in the background.
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Me and my husband, we didn't make it either to my brother Christian.
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My brother Blake and his girlfriend, they ended up going.
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After Blake came home, he told me that Kevin was back.
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And he was there at dinner with him.
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This was after they posted on the news
35:20:
that there was a body found up in the Pingri Park.
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So while Heather's family learned that Kevin resurfaced,
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police learned to own that mysterious car
35:31:
that had been parked in front of Heather's apartment.
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We identified the vehicle that I had seen that had the mud
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on the side of it, belonged to Kevin Eastman.
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It registered to him.
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So all this stuff was starting to come together
35:41:
that we're going down the right path that we need.
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Detectives decided they are going to now start to surveil them.
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We wrote search warrants asking a judge to grant us permission to look at
35:55:
Kevin Eastman's cell phone as well. And when we got those records back, we started putting those records together
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and trying to look at the last known locations.
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Investigators realize that Scott, Heather, and Kevin's phones
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are all in the same place at the same time on February 8th.
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The night that Scott disappeared.
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All three cell phones were on the same location at the same time.
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And then Scott's cell phone disappears.
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It's not registering anymore.
36:25:
At this point, Kevin Eastman and Heather Frank are both suspects
36:28:
in the disappearance and death of Scott Sessions.
36:31:
We got a tracker on Heather Frank's vehicle as well as Kevin Eastman's vehicle.
36:37:
We decided instead of having a law enforcement officer parked on their street 24 hours a day
36:43:
watching their front door, watching when they leave, we can put a pole camera on there and we can remotely watch.
36:50:
So you actually had a camera that you had the utility companies put up on that pole?
36:55:
Yes.
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So to the top, it was attached, facing towards Heather's apartment, that building right there.
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They were hoping to figure out when they were coming and going and being able to follow them and do other things.
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We had a track around the vehicle, so we were able to see they drove to Levelin, to Best Buy, to Victoria Secret.
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Not a lot of information that they're involved in something.
37:21:
Police didn't notice anything suspicious while they're surveilling Heather and Kevin.
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But more data from their phones starts to come in
37:30:
and police get a big break in the case.
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On the morning of the 9th, about 7 o'clock in the morning,
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we could see that Kevin Eastman's cell phone
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and Heather Frank's cell phone left her apartment
37:43:
at the same time and traveled the same path.
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The cell phones stop pinging at Ted's place,
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which is a gas station off of Highway 14 and Highway 287 in Lermar County.
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About the same time where you would go into the mountains and lose connectivity to your cell phone.
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Based off of the last known direction and travel of Heather Frank and Kevin Eastman's cell phone,
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we knew that this vehicle had to pass by the Missilwaka. The Missilwaka Amphitheater had cameras
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outside and we knew that we could get vehicle traveling eastbound and westbound on Highway 14 going up to Pingri Park.
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The way the surveillance camera has positioned, it shows Kevin's Subaru
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passing the restaurant going westbound up the canyon.
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I think it was 8.37 in the morning.
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This footage shows Kevin's car driving toward the area the body was found
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just three hours after Scott's cell phone dies at Heather Frank's house.
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Same damage that I saw on his vehicle,
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Parked outside of Heather Frank's apartment was on the camera at the Michel Walker.
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Then we see what would appear to be his Subaru traveling the opposite direction.
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I think it was 11 30 or so later that morning.
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So it was about a three hour time frame where it looked like heaven's vehicle was up in the canyon
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in the area generally of Pingri Park.
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That was our third major break to this case. that vehicle passing by the Michel-Walca,
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the cell phone records leading up to Pingri Park,
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and then going back to her apartment.
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We started right in warrants for people's arrests, for the murder of Scott Sessions.
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On February 15th, about 5.30 in the evening,
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we saw Heather Frank leaving her apartment
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with Kevin Eastman walking directly behind her.
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This is the moment that turned the case upside down.
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One of these people never be seen again.
39:46:
MUSIC
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It took everything I had to not scream. Why?
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I'm sure that you've seen stuff in the news about somebody disappearing from screaming.
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Our friend Scott was killed in one of the most brutal killings ever.
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They found him, but now someone else in the area is missing.
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Her children don't know where she's at.
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Her boss doesn't know where she's at.
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But it had to be some sort of love triangle gone wrong.
40:24:
All they have is this one man to guide them in a six-hour police interview unlike anything you've ever seen.
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My eyes got no screw down.
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This is almost three hours in and he's alone in the room.
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I'm pleased, sir, Father.
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Let me help his man get to the bottom of his case, please.
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Do you think at this point that Kevin Eastman is dangerous?
40:54:
Where was the blood out there?
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That's f***ing where? That's f***ing where?
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I was like, whoa.
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What really happened to Scott Sessions?
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Oh, please.
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No, it's not detailed.
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It's not detailed.
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I know.
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No, I don't want to get in there.
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Do you think this is all theater?
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Somewhere among the 110,000 Greeley Colorado residents, a killer, Roams Free.
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Cops are on the hunt for Scott Sessions' murderer,
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and they focused their attention on a waitress and a former oil rig worker.
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And that focus is thanks to large part
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to a camera pointed right in their direction.
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It's the day after Valentine's Day, about 5.30 PM.
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And Heather Frank and Kevin Eastman come out of her apartment.
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They loaded to his silver Subaru.
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Heather is carrying a jacket in her hands.
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She looks almost unsteady on her feet as she's walking out.
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They're not out in a conversation
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and she gets into the passenger side of the vehicle.
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One of them is never coming back
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and this is a key moment in the case
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because it's being captured by a surveillance camera
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set up on a light pole across the street.
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We have a pole camera, we have trackers on the vehicles.
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So we decided that night that we're gonna go home now.
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Our team's gonna power down for a night, get a good night's sleep
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and that we were gonna come back to work the next morning
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at 6 o'clock in the morning and start this case back up again.
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The plan is to arrest Frank and Eastman the following morning.
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But while the investigators are trying to get some rest,
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Kevin Eastman is not.
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He's driving far and wide into a rural area.
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And overnight, he'll be making multiple stops.
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The first stop is to the home of a man named Troy Bunnell.
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Troy Vanille runs his own trucking company essentially, and Troy is always needing help and
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assistance with that, and that's actually how Troy and Kevin are connected.
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They used to work together in the past.
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So I came to the office, and Donnie Robbins called me, and he says some strange stuff happened
43:16:
overnight while we were sleeping, and we had a tracker that was going off on Kevin vehicle all throughout the Pony grasslands.
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That concern me enough that he is destroying evidence.
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I want to get out here and see what he's doing.
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Donnie Robbins is a no-nonsense lawman who has spent a lifetime working major crimes.
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He's running this investigation.
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Do you think at this point that Kevin Eastman is dangerous?
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Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Suffering to be armed at least with a knife, obviously,
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because of the way that Scott Set sessions was murdered. murdered.
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In the early morning hours, the GPS tracker tells Robbins that Eastman's vehicle has been down by a river crossing.
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Not about place to get rid of evidence.
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So Robbins heads in that direction.
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But then he sees smoke and the veteran investigators experience tells him where there's smoke, there's fire.
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And then you're thinking, oh, so that's when I decided I probably needed to drop by
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there to see, Jackie, what was going on with that smoke.
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Upon his arrival at Trebenel's, he sees who he positively identifies as Kevin Eastman
44:31:
wearing a baseball cap and tending this fire.
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It's a very rural area.
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Some people burn their trash.
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What was uncomfortable was he couldn't see Heather Frank.
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He could see Kevin Eastman.
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The other thing about Dine Robbins at that point though is he has no backup.
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He's out there by himself.
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He's not in a marked car.
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He's looking at a guy who's got a warrant from Mark.
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At that point in time, we don't even have a search warrant for that property.
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So while the suspect is occupied at the burn pit,
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Robbins makes a quick detour to survey that river crossing.
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But when he returns to the buttole property,
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Eastman is driving away.
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And the two cars actually pass each other.
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Lieutenant Robbins actually sees
45:15:
Kevin Eastman driving north on Kennerwood 45.
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I turned around and began to follow him and we ended up going to a small town called Cursey.
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And at that point is when Sergeant Robbins decided that he needed to make contact.
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It's early here at Phillips 66 and until now Sergeant Robbins has been keeping a safe distance as he follows Eastman.
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But earlier that morning he had seen him burn something in that fire pit and he's right there at the first gas pump filling a gas canister and Robbins decides he cannot allow him to burn anything else.
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He pulls him behind him at the gas station. Kevin is standing outside of his vehicle and he's pumping fuel into a portable gas can. gas can.
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Obviously, I already had burned pit over there.
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He's been burning something in.
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Scott Sessions' body was burned.
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So I had, I can say, concerns that he was going to take that gas can and probably use it
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as an accelerant to destroy evidence of some kind.
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From the moment Eastman pulled in, security cameras captured it all.
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So you arrest him, you pull out your pistol.
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Pull out my pistol.
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How far away are you from him? 10 yards, maybe.
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What do you say?
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He didn't say anything.
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What do you say?
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Sheriff's Office, your under arrest, get on the ground.
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Mr. Eastman.
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I'm pointing my weapon at him.
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He's turned rounds and looks at me and he gets on the ground.
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I'll go up in that handcuff.
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I did search him and on his person he had a wallet,
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a substantial amount of money, and I fixed blade knife and cargo pocket of his pants.
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We later found out that there were shell casings to a 22 caliber rifle or handgun in this pocket.
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Did you ask him?
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Where's Heather?
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Where's your alleged accomplice?
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After I advised him of Miranda, I asked him where she was at and he wouldn't respond.
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We executed the search warrant on the Bonel property and then the first contact we had with
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Troy Bonel.
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We cleared the entire property, which was a garage, the house, and we didn't find Heather
47:43:
Frank's, which I was concerned with at that point.
47:46:
Just because investigators can't find Heather Frank on the property doesn't mean she's not there.
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And if Kim is been knows where she is, he's not saying.
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Where's Heather?
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48:57:
The Laramor County Sheriff's Office, they're serving a search warrant at Troye Benels.
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They're getting a search warrant ready for Heather Frank's apartment.
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And they're also interviewing Kevin Eastman.
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So there's lots of things happening simultaneously with a bunch of questions that still need to be answered in a hurry.
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A Graley Man has been arrested in the murder of a Northern Colorado musician.
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and getting matters more, Heather Frank is not with Eastman
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at the time that he's picked up.
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Her children don't know where she's at.
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Her boss doesn't know where she's at.
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And in fact, in the investigation,
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they find out that not even Troy Bennell has seen Heather Frank.
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So this is your office?
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Yes, we're at the Limer County Sheriff's office.
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And this is the interview room
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where we had a conversation with Kevin Eastman for six and a half hours. six and a half hours.
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You're name Kevin Eastman.
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Nice to meet you.
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Is he relatively calm at that point?
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He's very calm.
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He's very polite.
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He's very cooperative.
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My eyes got no screwed up.
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Also, I had a crush.
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So, um, yeah, my memory's not all the sort it should be.
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During this interview, Eastman has this story about getting ahead and jury at work to cause all this memory loss.
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So much so he just cannot remember being red as rights only about one hour earlier.
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How many times during that interview do you think he said, I don't remember or I can't remember.
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Oh, I don't know. 30, 40, 50 times.
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I don't believe that I can't remember.
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I'm sorry, I can't remember.
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I said, can't remember.
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But Eastman's mind is not totally blank.
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He is able to recall certain dates and times and conversations.
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Just as long as they have nothing to do with either Heather Frank or Scott Sessions.
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Sunday the ninth that snowed, I'm going to snow in a lot of work.
50:59:
That's kind of different from the guy who was warning you I have a head injury and can't remember anything.
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He's telling us that he can't remember things that happened two or three days ago, but
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he's telling me stuff that happened six weeks ago.
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starting to lose credibility with me at this point in the interview.
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And I'm sure that you've seen stuff in the news about somebody disappearing from
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Greeley.
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Is it a musician?
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Is it a musician?
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Yeah, it was a musician.
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Yeah.
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Did his eyes drop when you mentioned Scott Sessions the first time?
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This is a person that is hiding.
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He really does not want to be present in this conversation because he's very uncomfortable.
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He does not want to face me.
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He's hiding his face.
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He's hiding his emotions.
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He's hiding whatever his reactions are going to be.
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Some of the more interesting moments in this cat and mouse
51:54:
game come when the investigators briefly leave the room, but those cameras are still rolling.
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This is almost three hours in, and he's alone in the room.
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Please, sir, Father.
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Let me help these men get to the bottom of his case.
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Please, our poor man was on his sixth.
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Do you think this is all theater?
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It could be, or he's actually feeling the stress of it.
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Oh, ladies and gentlemen, oh, sweet, and stand.
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He's taken a lot of deep breaths because I think he's starting to feel some of the pressure where this conversation is going.
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We're trying to get him locked into a timeline of events prior to Scott going missing.
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Up until this point, we have not really been in your face presenting facts that, hey, look,
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you need to tell us this stuff.
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We are getting very close to us transitioning from an interview into an interrogation.
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So you can see that I'm leaning in to apply that emotional pressure.
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I wanted to see what his emotional reaction would be to ask him to say Scott's name.
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You can say his name.
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Scott, you're having a hard time saying his name.
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He cannot utter the name Scott Sessions.
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Yeah, he continued to say, well, I didn't know the guy.
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Yeah, who liked that over the institute?
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He didn't want to say his name.
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Easton appears to have this emotional breakdown
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when investigators attempt to read him a transcript
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of the messages between Heather and Scott.
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Oh, please.
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No, it's not detail.
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It's not detail.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I'm getting it.
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Are you thinking that this is someone who was a clever criminal?
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I think he's experienced.
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He knew exactly what he was doing.
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He had a plan.
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But we need to be completely honest with each other, OK?
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I can't, I can't completely notice a few.
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Originally he said that he wasn't there,
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that he didn't know anything about Scott Sessions.
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And then he says, I was in the scene, and I started to try healing.
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Can you trust him?
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Where was a big mess up?
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I said if you guys just can't stir anything good,
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they'll build a find it for sure.
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Many hours into this back and forth.
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Kick your head up, and breathe, okay?
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The one word that changes everything, blood.
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It had to be something like this serious for that of a f***ing blood.
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So there was a water blood there.
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Where was the blood at?
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It's f***ing blood.
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It's f***ing blood.
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What Kevin Eastman is saying inside the interrogation room
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is shocking enough, but outside the room, another bombshell.
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According to the investigators, there
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was personal items half burnt in the pit, something that was...
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Hethers.
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As Kevin Eastman continues to bend, but not break in his interrogation...
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I don't know, man. This is just crazy.
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Investigators are still hunting for Heather Frank.
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They don't know where she is,
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but they do know where she is not, and that's her apartment.
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So they get a warrant to search her property.
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Our job is solving puzzles using physical evidence.
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In the living room of the residence,
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there were some shopping bags near the sofa, which contained some paper towels,
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some cleaning products, and the box for a cell phone.
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I did observe a black commercial style rug in the entryway,
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and that did appear odd and out of place.
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Underneath that black commercial rug,
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I did see a large reddish brown stain
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that was consistent with the appearance of a blood stain.
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It did look like the blood stains were trying to be hidden
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from view of someone entering the apartment.
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That blood, as well as other blood stains located
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around that area of her living room were tested,
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and those blood stains came back to Scott Sessions.
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It's hard to hide blood when it's everywhere.
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Everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
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And at some point during this back and forth with Kevin, the interview changes drastically.
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Yes, it does.
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You can see in some of these clips
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that Ryan had a cell phone out
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he was getting text messages from other investigators
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is to, hey, we found out this information.
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So the first time you heard that Heather is dead
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is from hearing Ryan talk about it to Katherine.
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That is correct.
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We found Heather.
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And Heather is in the same condition as Skies.
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It's time to start talking.
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The information came in that Heather Frank
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was found deceased at Troy Bonnell's property.
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And it was like a baseball bat to my gut.
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I was like, whoa.
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And I was expecting something, but I wasn't expecting that.
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And that makes the actions or the inaction of investigators
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somewhat controversial when it comes to that video of Heather Frank leaving her apartment.
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At the time, its surfaces and investigators are still piecing things together,
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trying to determine what is going on.
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So they do not move in for an arrest.
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How did you feel when you saw it?
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To this day, I'm still conflicted.
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You're watching somebody drive away to their death.
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Could we have changed it or done anything differently?
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I don't think so.
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This is a very unfortunate sad story,
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and I feel horrible for her kids,
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the fact that this happened to Heather.
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The unfortunate thing is that
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decisions that she made played into the situation and how it unfolded. and she didn't deserve to die.
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It's a very powerful image that you're seeing right now.
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It was just so shocking because I was like, what?
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And I was just so confused.
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At first, she's wanted on murder and then she ends up dead.
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Heather Frank had been shocked to death.
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In autopsy, would later conclude,
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she was killed at close range with her body, pressed up against a hard surface.
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I got a phone call from my boss telling me that they needed help at the scene.
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At that point, they had found a body on that property.
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She had been wrapped up in plastic, she had belling wire around her.
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Her body was found and it was near the fire pit.
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And he had placed her underneath a piece of wood that looked like a big door
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With the body being wrapped up, it made it even more suspicious.
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And the fact that it was wrapped in plastic made it pretty comparable to the first murder that was involved in this case.
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And that was that of Scott Sessions.
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Happy New Year, Alma!
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I assisted in the delivery of the notice for Heather's boys.
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They were all living together and we all went with the corner's office to deliver that crushing news.
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It was the morning of February 16th.
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The detectives came to the house and they told us that they had found my mom.
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I answered the phone. I said Alex, are you okay?
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He said yeah, I'm okay, but mom's not.
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And I just started bawling.
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I said, please tell me she's still alive.
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And he said, I wish I could or something like that.
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He says, it's so bad.
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Now, there are also some questions for the man
01:00:41:
who owns this property where Heather Frank's body was found
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and where Kevin Eastman was seen just hours earlier.
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So, Troy Banelle is brought in for questioning.
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that they found a body out on your property.
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They believe it's a female, so obviously you know what we're thinking.
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It's Heather.
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She's a Christ.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I got nothing to do with this.
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Okay.
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But Nell says he was sleeping.
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At the time, Eastman was at the burn pit.
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Had no idea what he was doing on his property.
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but investigators cannot take banel at his word,
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especially after they learn about a missing gun from his garage.
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A 22 caliber.
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Well, they're saying that she was shot by a small caliber pistol.
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And that's what I had.
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He's admitting that there's a gun on the tool chest, and we're searching the property.
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We served a search warrant in his house and we're not finding this gun.
01:01:46:
Where is this gun?
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But now also acknowledges Heather didn't care for him.
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She didn't like me for whatever reason.
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I think it's because I kind of have some words with Kevin.
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You know.
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Back in his interrogation room,
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Kevin Eastman is