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01:26: I'm Charlotte Gallagher and in the early hours of Wednesday the 9th of August, these are our main stories.

01:33: How can we protect the Amazon rainforest?

01:35: South American leaders try to find a solution at a landmark summit in Brazil.

01:41: The Colombian drug cartel boss jailed for decades in the US.

01:47: The mystery surrounding a fatal mushroom lunch in Australia.

01:51: case has definitely baffled police, it's confused and shocked the local community and it's left this family absolutely devastated.

02:03: Also in this podcast, how Portugal is battling raging wildfires and we meet the person

02:10: who's furry friend stole the show at this.

02:13: The world dog surfing of competition always draws a huge crowd up in North California.

02:18: This year I think there were procloste a thousand people that came to the beach and watched all the dogs serve this year.

02:27: But first, eight countries that share the Amazon rainforest have agreed to form an alliance

02:33: to fight deforestation. Meeting in Brazil, they've promised to make sure the forest doesn't

02:39: reach a tipping point when it would lose its ability to regenerate from the damage caused

02:45: by droughts, fires, mining and tree logging. In his opening speech, the host, President

02:51: Louis Anasio Lula de Silva, highlighted how crucial the world's biggest rainforest

02:57: is in efforts to tackle the worsening climate crisis. Our South America correspondent Katie

03:03: Watson reports from Brazil.

03:05: It's a hefty declaration, some 10,000 words, and in it the country said the objective

03:10: was to prevent the amazin from reaching a point of no return. It covers a lot of ground.

03:16: And in it, the members agree it's important to draw up common goals such as combating

03:20: deforestation by 2030 and holding illegal mining and logging. But there was little detail

03:26: on how will happen. While the declaration shows a commitment to tackling big issues together,

03:31: there are differences in opinion in some areas. Colombia's President Gustavo Pedro once

03:36: all countries to work on banning new oil exploration, but Brazil is controversially wanting

03:41: to explore new areas at the mouth of the Amazin River. Despite the differences, this summit

03:46: has undoubtedly given this region a voice when it comes to combating climate change and

03:51: the world is looking at South America to help come up with solutions in their own backyard.

03:56: Katie Watson in Brazil. He was once one of the world's most dangerous

04:01: drug lords. Now, Daryl Antonio Osuga, known as Otanil, has been sentenced to 45 years

04:08: in jail in the U.S. Our America's regional editor, Leonardo Russia, has been telling me more about him.

04:15: He was the leader of the most powerful and dangerous criminal organization in Colombia

04:21: for about a decade. The clandell goal for the Gulf clan. He was running the organization

04:27: since his brother was killed in a new year's party attack.

04:31: And then eventually he took over.

04:33: For several years he was on the run going from safe house

04:36: to safe house in the north of Colombia near border with Panama.

04:40: There was a bounty on him, I think, $5 million.

04:43: Eventually he was scot and extradited to the United States.

04:46: And the Colombian authorities agreed with the US

04:50: that he wouldn't be sentenced to life.

04:52: But he was sentenced in New York to 45 years in jail,

04:56: which is practically a life sentence if he serves that time because he's 51 years old.

05:01: Why is he going to prison in the United States and not Columbia?

05:05: That's something that changed in the 80s and the 90s when the US did an agreement with Colombia

05:11: to have this criminals extra-dited to the US. The reason is he's organized this has been smuggling

05:17: drugs cocaine mainly to the United States and generally the London money also in American banks.

05:23: So that's an American offense.

05:25: And for Colombian criminals and Mexican criminals also

05:29: is the worst punishment that they can get.

05:31: Because if they stay in Colombia in prison, they have a lot of control.

05:34: They can be close to the families.

05:36: They often even manage to continue controlling the organizations.

05:40: But going to the US, they lose their nobodies there.

05:42: They try it all course to avoid extradition.

05:45: His lawyer's asking for more lenient sentence.

05:48: I mean, can you see any chance of that?

05:50: I can see a possibility of her.

05:52: But there's no sympathy for him.

05:55: The prosecutors describe the Tonya Lazar,

05:58: vicious character, vindictive that he killed his opponents

06:01: and people who was seen as collaborating with the police.

06:04: What his lawyer said is that he was forced to join

06:07: a paramilitary rebel group when he was a young child

06:11: that he didn't choose this life that they should consider that.

06:14: But I don't think the American authorities

06:16: or people in Colombia will have much sympathy for him.

06:19: But that's the problem with the region and everywhere.

06:22: They won't be a directing pact on the production of cocaine or smuggling.

06:27: Other people will control this area.

06:29: That was Leonardo Russia, now to Portugal.

06:36: That's the sound of the wildfires which are raging in central and southern Portugal.

06:42: The latest European country to battle with the problem this summer.

06:46: Nearly 3,000 firefighters spent Tuesday tackling fires throughout central Portugal.

06:52: Officials say they're particularly concerned about two areas where the fires could start spreading again.

06:59: Hundreds of people have been evacuated from villages, campsites and tourist resorts.

07:04: Alistair Leithhead is a journalist there.

07:07: I can hear the constant buzz of the aircraft that are doing trips from the nearby reservoir

07:12: to the side of the fire that's just over the hill behind me.

07:15: It's about three or four kilometers from where we are.

07:17: This was a fire that started.

07:18: It was a day when rarely we have these east winds.

07:21: And it was a top of us in no time at all.

07:23: We had an hour to pack the car with all the things

07:25: we wanted to save from the house.

07:26: And then we had to get out before we were cut off by the fire.

07:29: All of the hill sides here were burned,

07:31: but we have a lot of cork oak and cork oak so designed for fire.

07:34: So they've all recovered quite well.

07:35: Part of our house was burnt, but again, it was just the outside.

07:39: Unlucky that the fire came to our valley,

07:41: but very lucky that more damage wasn't done.

07:43: We know there have been around 1400 people evacuated from homes.

07:46: There have been some houses and resorts that have been destroyed south of South

07:50: Tietonio. It's fire when it's dry from here. It's just over the hill.

07:54: And the fire was on the edge of that town yesterday. People were getting very

07:57: nervous when you can't see the sun for smoke in the town centre.

08:01: And although today things have gone well, the weather can change, the winds can

08:04: change very quickly here. And then we could be in a very difficult situation once again.

08:08: Where we are here on the coast, it's a bit cooler. This is why it's more unusual.

08:12: The bigger fires are usually up in the mountains close to the Spanish border.

08:16: There was one there last week which was huge but was then controlled.

08:19: I spoke this morning actually to the nearby vineyard here and the 45th of their staff

08:24: fought the fire as it was coming out them yesterday.

08:26: We honestly thought that they would have lost their harvest and their new winery.

08:30: But they went out with water trucks, plows to plow land between where the fire is coming from

08:35: and going to. That happened to us. Our local farmer came with his son and cut big

08:40: swathes of land to try and stop the flames. The problem is that in the wind and the

08:44: eucalyptus trees that have this oil that burns, they can spark balls of fire that can be

08:49: sent 100, 200 meters. And if someone's not there to see them and to put them out quickly,

08:54: another fire begins. That's why these fires can be so dangerous, especially with high winds.

08:59: Alice Liethead. When the Taliban swept into power two years ago, there was much talk

09:05: of whether they might be different from their previous incarnation, whether in particular

09:11: women's rights might survive. The simple answer is no, and the dismantling of secondary

09:16: and university education for women is now complete. But out of sight of the authorities, teachers

09:23: and academics have pushed back, as Sanisafi from the BBC's Afghan service reports, women

09:30: Women and girls are now being educated in a network of secret schools.

09:36: Teachers here say that even if the Taliban suspects one girl of being a school student,

09:42: then the future of thousands of girls will be in danger.

09:47: I feel like I'm stealing on education.

09:49: I'm stealing life.

09:51: The voice you have just heard belongs to an actor.

09:54: But the words are those of a young woman who attends a secret school in Afghanistan.

09:59: For her own safety, we can't reveal her name or location.

10:03: I'm the first journalist to be given access to her class, made up of more than 30 female students aged between 12 and 22.

10:12: I was able to observe from outside the country using a live video link.

10:18: It's a class full of young women and young women showing me her books.

10:23: It's biology, yes?

10:26: So a teacher had just come closer to the camera to speak with us.

10:30: We're going to call her H.

10:33: They have told us to come secretly on secret roads.

10:37: Students come from different ways, so Taliban won't see that they are coming here.

10:42: They must wear good hijabs and feels like we are nothing in the society.

10:47: It even makes me cry.

10:49: Why can't we go to school like men?

10:51: This secret school is one of three, run by women's rights activist, Pashna Durani.

10:57: If I didn't have my education, I would be married off, my sister would be married

11:00: off, my brother would be working as a child labor somewhere, but I became the meat

11:04: fiat that was needed because of my education, because of that power that I had over my destiny.

11:10: Pashna moved to the US after receiving what she says were serious threats, but when we

11:15: She speaks, she's back in Afghanistan, in hiding, and increasingly worried about her safety,

11:21: and that of her students and teachers.

11:24: The effort will continue, a lot of people believe in it, and they want a better lifestyle for their children, especially young girls.

11:35: When the Taliban banned music, I created several music classes.

11:42: It was like fighting against behavior of the Taliban.

11:47: That's Angela Goyou, founder of an alternative option for Afghan women and girls.

11:53: She and a team of teachers from across the globe deliver 85 different online classes to students inside Afghanistan, ranging from English to the sciences.

12:04: Some of the classes are pre-recorded, but others are real time, interactive lessons, by a messaging platforms and apps.

12:13: The classes are very popular, even though Angela says she can't issue qualifications.

12:19: We could hear you.

12:20: Oh, sorry.

12:21: I sit in on a virtual class.

12:23: Today's subject, the future.

12:25: I can't see the pupils.

12:27: They're logged on to a messaging app installed on all of their phones

12:31: and can either talk to me directly or post comments.

12:35: Yes, I want to speak again,

12:37: an actor is saying the student's words.

12:40: But by the way, she spoke to me in flawless English.

12:44: Well, my ultimate dream is to become a diplomat and represent my country on a global stage.

12:51: And it feels like I'm fighting an uphill battle. I'm trapped in a society where education is forbidden.

12:58: Freedom is a distant memory. And I hold on to the belief that one day things will change.

13:04: That one day I'll be able to go to school without fear. that report was by Sana Safi.

13:11: Two Saturdays ago, 48-year-old Australian Erin Patterson cooked lunch so far, so normal.

13:18: But now, three of her guests are dead

13:20: and a fourth is fighting for his life.

13:23: The story has gone global, partly because so many are baffled

13:27: as to why Erin Patterson, the host of the party, is fine, and so are her children.

13:32: So what's happened?

13:34: Our reporter Tiffany Turnbull in Sydney told my colleague Anita Annand more.

13:38: It was a family of around five people that met.

13:41: It was hosted at this moment called Erin Patterson's home.

13:44: She invited her in-laws and her mother-in-law's sister and her husband as well.

13:50: The guest at her home very quickly became sick within hours of eating there.

13:55: And they took themselves to hospital.

13:56: They thought they were sick with food poisoning,

13:58: but it soon turned out that it was a lot worse than that.

14:01: They were getting the best medical care,

14:03: but despite that, three of them have since died. and another one is critically ill.

14:07: But weirdly, Erin is completely fine.

14:10: As are her kids, they're believed to have eaten something different.

14:14: But this case has definitely baffled police.

14:16: It's confused and shocked the local community.

14:20: And it's left this family absolutely devastated.

14:23: At what point did they realise the mushrooms were to blame?

14:25: And where did these mushrooms come from?

14:27: Police are still 100% trying to confirm that these mushrooms were behind these symptoms.

14:34: but they say that they're pretty confident it was something called a death cat mushroom.

14:37: These mushrooms are found all over the world in cool and humid climates. They just look like normal

14:43: mushrooms. There's nothing really that stands out that you go, hey, that one's really poisonous.

14:47: And so people have and do regularly around the world accidentally eat these and become very ill.

14:54: Some of the symptoms are actually quite similar to food poisoning, which is why it sometimes can

14:59: be really hard to detect until people are really ill. But we also know that they're so poisonous

15:05: that just a piece the size of a coin is enough to kill an adult. But as for where these specific

15:11: mushrooms came from, police don't actually know that yet either. And Erin, the woman who cooked the

15:16: meal, has been asked that, but she's declined to answer those questions. What was the mushrooms

15:21: roll in the meal itself? We actually don't know that either. Police say that they have an idea of

15:26: of what dishes were served, but they're still working out what was served to who, and

15:30: they haven't exactly told us what this meal looked like.

15:34: Definitely not the first time that we've seen death cat poisons here in Australia, but

15:40: police say this is actually quite an unusual case.

15:43: They haven't really seen multiple members of the one family full ill like this before,

15:48: and because that is so unusual, that's why there's bored in the homicide squad.

15:52: That was Tiffany Turnbull.

15:54: DJ Casper, the creator of the worldwide hit, The Chacha Slide, has died at the age of 58.

16:00: He'd been suffering from cancer for seven years. Phoebe Hobson reports.

16:09: The song The Chacha Slide with its easy-to-follow dance moves was a soundtrack to school

16:13: discos weddings and parties across the world. Its universal appeal to get people moving on the dance

16:18: floor, it's perhaps unsurprising as DJ Casper originally created it as a musical exercise

16:24: routine for his nephew who was a personal trainer.

16:28: Its popularity grew in his native Chicago in the late 90s before making its way to Europe in the early 2000s.

16:34: The song even had an appearance in the hit series Orange is the new black.

16:40: Many tributes from fans on social media mentioned how the dance moves were loved by all generations at family parties.

16:47: about his own hit, DJ Casper said its legacy was to unify people with a positive message.

16:59: That was Phoebe Hobson reporting. Still to come on the Global News Podcast, why China's

17:07: economic woes are forcing some people to do this?

17:11: The idea is that they would share room and bid to cut costs, particularly for young workers and recent graduates.

17:25: Pakistan's former Prime Minister Imran Khan has been barred from holding public office for five years.

17:32: The ruining by the country's electoral authorities means he'll be dismissed as an MP and will

17:38: we disqualified altogether from politics. This comes after Mr Khan was sentenced to three

17:44: years in prison for corruption, which he denies. Our correspondent Caroline Davis is in the

17:49: Pakistani capital Islamabad.

17:51: I think what his supporters and his lawyers held up hope for was in the course of the next

17:55: few days that they might be able to delay this whole process. It wasn't entirely clear

18:00: how quickly the Electoral Commission would move to disqualify him altogether. But the

18:05: The fact is that within just a few days they have moved to disqualify him, and we now

18:09: know that for five years he will not be able to hold public office and he will not be able

18:13: to lead his party, the PTI party, which leaves a lot of questions.

18:18: Firstly, the expectation is that there is a general election expected this year by the

18:23: constitution needs to be by early November.

18:26: And of course if Imran Khan is not leading his party, he has founded his party, the emblem

18:31: of the PTI is a cricket bat.

18:34: So the fact that he is not there leading his party really does mean that the major government

18:39: opposition will not be standing in a very meaningful way unless someone else is able to take

18:45: the reins and give it in a different direction.

18:47: This is probably one of the last parts of hope that maybe Imran Khan, his lawyers, his supporters

18:52: had, was that they might be able to create some form of delay, but the fact that he's

18:56: now been disqualified really means that this is a very big uphill struggle if Imran

19:00: Khan is going to find it anyway to be able to contest the elections.

19:04: Caroline Davis in Islamabad.

19:06: Georgia has become a prime destination for Russians fleeing the war with Ukraine, but

19:12: a past Russian invasion means many Georgians are not happy to see them.

19:18: Now the government of Georgia, although often accused by critics of having pro-Cremlin

19:23: leanings, has called Russia an aggressor, saying Moscow's continuing occupation of a

19:29: section of Georgia is a key challenge to its development. Our correspondent, Vitaly

19:34: Chevchenko, has just returned from the Georgian capital to Bliisi and told us more about the tensions.

19:41: Thousands of Russians currently in Georgia. Most of them are trying to escape the military

19:48: draft. They don't want to be sent by the Russian government to fight in Ukraine, kill

19:53: or be killed. There's an extraordinary amount of extreme anti-Russian graffiti scrawled

20:02: all over the Belysse. And it is crude. Kill Russians. Russians not welcome here, good or bad.

20:09: Now in wartime language, good Russians are the ones that do not support President Putin's

20:16: special military preparation in Ukraine. It was really difficult to escape the Russia-Ukraine

20:21: war. Reminders of it are to be found in the most unusual of places such as restaurants and bars

20:28: in one of them I saw leaflets in Russian, addressed to Russians which said every single Russian

20:35: bears responsibility for this war. While you're having fun here, your army, pillaging, killing

20:42: and raping in Ukraine, so if you couldn't protest against this in Russia, do it here. If you don't

20:48: degree with it, you're not welcome. There are of course valid reasons for

20:51: Georgians to be critical of relations with Russia because exactly 15 years ago

20:58: a war started between Russia and Georgia as a result of which Georgia lost

21:03: roughly 20% of its territory. So there's a troubled past between Russia and

21:09: Georgia and it's still haunting relations between these two countries.

21:14: Did you speak to any Russians that had moved there when you were in

21:17: My friends who moved to Georgia from Russia after the start of this war and people who grew up in

21:25: Bili See, they held this point of view that a lot of the Russians who are now in Georgia, they seemed

21:34: reluctant to confront the reasons why they had to leave their home country. In one example,

21:39: there was given as well look at the restaurants that are always full of Russians who are whining and

21:46: dining and look at how many of them are protesting against this war. It has to be said that such

21:53: protests are very few and far between. The RIFTS ID between the new arrivals from Russia and

21:59: local residents and one local opinion poll found that 78% of Georgians object to Russians not

22:09: having to apply for a visa to visit Georgia. They object to Russians in opening businesses

22:15: Georgia buying property in Georgia and only 4% say that Russians are very welcome in Georgia.

22:23: Vitaly Chevchenko, once dubbed the roaring dragon because of its enviable economic growth,

22:30: the Chinese economy is faltering. In our previous podcast, we reported on exports plummeting by

22:37: almost 15%. That's threatening its economic recovery, following the world's longest COVID lockdown,

22:44: and it's having a big impact on China's youth with growing numbers struggling to find a job

22:49: and make a living. Some are reportedly having to share beds with people they don't even know.

22:56: In order to be able to afford to live in big cities, the BBC's Katie Silver in asking a poor

23:01: bureau explains. It's really quite something. It was originally reported by a South China Morning

23:06: Post. It's been spotted on Chinese social media and there's even a hashtag that people are using

23:11: to search for possible bedmates as the term is called.

23:14: The idea is that they would share room and bed to cut costs,

23:18: particularly for young workers and recent graduates.

23:21: A survey in China recently found that most young people

23:24: want to pay rent only up to about 30% of their salary.

23:27: And given that the recent graduate earns about $1,400 USD a month,

23:32: it's far less than they would need to be able to achieve

23:34: that 30% figure or to have any hope of having any savings.

23:38: As part of this, many have rules, for example, no storing and no inviting romantic guests.

23:44: It does seem indeed to be something as a way of countering the huge issue that China has when it comes to use unemployment.

23:49: To give you an idea last month in June, it hit a record 21 percent and that's doubled in the last four years.

23:56: The pandemic did nothing to help. There were layoffs without compensation.

23:59: And of course, we saw the China's tech industry really struggling and tech has definitely been an area that has obviously attracted a lot of young,

24:07: recent graduates. That number that 21% figure is expected to get even worse, more students graduating,

24:12: turning into job seekers, and we're hearing that college graduates now are being told not to be too

24:18: lofty, don't name for the top, just take opportunities that you can. The universities as well

24:22: being encouraged to help their graduates find jobs. Katie Silver in Singapore. Another two

24:27: matches were played at the Women's World Cup in New Zealand and Australia, including the reggae

24:33: girls from Jamaica who took on their South American counterparts Colombia.

24:42: That's the sound of overjoyed Colombian fans loudly celebrating their win over

24:47: Jamaica and securing their place in the quarterfinals. They'll now face England on Saturday.

24:53: France also beat Morocco and will now play Australia. BBC's sport reporter Mimi Fowas was watching the matches.

25:01: Today we've seen Colombia go through to the quarterfinals.

25:04: They played their match against Jamaica.

25:06: That was the first match of the day.

25:08: It was a very tough match because they couldn't break Jamaica's defense.

25:12: Jamaica have not conceded any goals in the group stages.

25:15: And then they finally got that winning goal through Usme, the captain of Colombia.

25:20: So great scenes.

25:21: It's the first time they're through to the quarterfinals.

25:24: So very big moment for the country.

25:27: And in the second match of today, we saw France thrashed debutants Morocco for Nell.

25:33: We saw a lot of defensive errors from Morocco,

25:35: like we saw in the match against Germany in the group stages.

25:38: But, you know, they too have made history.

25:40: First time at this competition,

25:42: first time getting through to the last 16 first Arab

25:45: country to qualify for the World Cup.

25:47: So, though they are out, they've really represented themselves very well.

25:50: And we've got the quarterfinals coming up next.

25:52: It seems to be going so quickly.

25:54: Oh my goodness, I'm like losing track of time.

25:55: I don't even know what we're in anymore,

25:57: but it's been such a fantastic tournament.

26:00: We're gonna see, of course, some matches kicking off on Friday.

26:03: One of the big ones to look out for, of course,

26:05: is this weekend where England will be playing Columbia.

26:09: And that's gonna be a tough one for England because Columbia have Linda Kaisedo, the 18-year-old real-majored player who has been fantastic stunning goal

26:18: that she had against Germany in the group stages.

26:22: And as well, we'll see France take on Australia,

26:25: the co-host, so that will be another interesting matchup in the quarterfinals.

26:30: That was Mimi Fowars.

26:32: Now to something shaken, not stirred.

26:43: For the first time ever, the Ian Fleming Estate has allowed a woman to write a James Bond book.

26:51: The title is 000-Nothing and it's written by Kim Sherwood, who spoke to the BBC's Haley

26:57: Hassel.

26:58: The Fleming's asked me to expand the world of 007, so that was an opportunity to keep

27:03: bond as bond, a character I love, but also to expand the stage.

27:07: So I've brought in these new 00 characters and that has allowed me to create a more inclusive world for bond.

27:15: I've been able to create 003, Johanna Harwood, the first kind of main character, female

27:20: double-o who's named after the first woman to write bond, she co-wrote the screenplays

27:25: the Doctor Known from Russia with love. It's obviously been well received so far but has there

27:29: been any opposition or controversy to the fact that it's changed or it's you that's doing it?

27:34: I think anytime a woman puts a head over the parapet in the male dominated space there will be

27:39: some opposition but what I've been really delighted by is that the majority voice has been incredibly

27:44: celebratory and welcoming. The bond community is an amazingly diverse and inclusive space when

27:50: think about it, there's something to be this popular for so long. There's got to be a lot of

27:53: angles to it that people can enjoy. So what I've tried to do is really give the platform and the

27:58: microphone to both positive celebratory voices in this brilliant fan community. You've had to keep

28:04: this a secret for a very long time. Why was that and how university managed it? I had to give it

28:09: a secret because anything in the Bond world is big news, but it helped me with the writing process

28:13: because I was able to imagine I was just a kid again playing James Bond and I was a little kid I'd

28:18: by on my neighbours who luckily were very tolerant people.

28:20: And I returned their movements into mystery stories,

28:22: I was bond in my mind and I could go back to that sense of play

28:26: and being able to take risks and experiment.

28:28: When it became public, obviously I was really delighted with the response from the fans,

28:32: but it also added to the pressure because suddenly it was public news.

28:35: Now the where rumours that the new bond could have been a different gender,

28:39: did you not want to make a female bond for a change?

28:41: For me that was less interesting to map a female hero onto the template of a male hero.

28:46: And like I say, I've loved Bond's character all my life. I wanted to keep Bond as Bond.

28:50: But that was why I thought I'll have him be missing from the beginning. He's vanished,

28:53: and my six are trying to find him. Because if Bond is there on page or screen, he commands the spotlight.

28:59: If you're going to bring in new characters, you have to be able to move the spotlight to them.

29:02: So I thought if I just ask him to step a little to the left and put him in darkness,

29:06: I can move that spotlight onto these new characters. So we have the first GWO, the Muslim WO.

29:12: I'm hoping that will allow more people to see themselves as the hero.

29:15: That was Kim Sherwood, author of Double Own Nothing, the latest novel in the long-running James Bond series.

29:22: Finally, and this is my favourite story.

29:25: Over the weekend, crowds of pet lovers hit the beach to watch dogs of all breeds, shapes and sizes,

29:31: ride the waves at the world, dog surfing championships in Pacifica, California.

29:38: Yes, it's a real thing and it sounds amazing, in my opinion.

29:42: This year, the fiercely competitive canine contest helped raise money for local animal welfare

29:48: environmental and surfing nonprofit groups. One of the proud winners Derby and his human

29:55: handler Ken Tucky-Gallahue took a pause from their celebrations to speak to Davina Guter.

30:02: So first of all, a very big congratulations from all of us on the BBC.

30:06: Oh, thank you so much. Were you nervous?

30:08: No, because I don't do anything Derby does all the work.

30:11: What's Derby nervous?

30:12: No, he's never nervous.

30:13: He just loves being in the ocean and hanging out with me.

30:15: So did you guys train at all for this event?

30:18: We do not.

30:19: We go surfing, but as we possibly can here in sunny San Diego.

30:22: So I don't consider it training.

30:24: I just considered a fun day out in the ocean catching some waves.

30:28: And tell us about dog surfing.

30:30: I have never heard of it.

30:31: Derby now moved to San Diego seven years ago.

30:33: And we did not even know anything about it either.

30:36: It's a competition where there's three categories.

30:38: There's solo surfing where the dogs are,

30:41: by themselves on the surfboard and the owners

30:44: push them into a wave and they ride the wave as far as possible.

30:47: Try to make it to the beach and try to do it in style.

30:49: The second is tandem dog dog where there's two or more

30:53: dogs on a board to get pushed in a wave

30:54: and make it all the way to the beach.

30:56: And then there's tandem dog human where there's two

30:58: a dog and their owner on the board together.

31:01: Wow.

31:01: So how many people were there attending this event this year?

31:04: The world dog surfing competition always draws a huge crowd up in North California.

31:09: You don't see a lot of dog surfing going on up there because the water is a lot colder.

31:12: This year I think there were close to 1,500 people that came to the beach and watched all the dogs surf this year.

31:18: And what's this community like of dog surfing?

31:21: It's like seeing our family again every year.

31:23: We do three or four events up and down the California coast including Hawaii and we get

31:28: to meet our surfers friends again and we all can't wait for summer to hit where we can

31:33: all get to the beach again and go out and surf with our pups.

31:36: Could you tell us about the safety as well for many of these dogs because it seems very tricky what they're doing?

31:44: Yes, safety is definitely number one priority.

31:46: During these events all the boards that we use are soft top.

31:49: So if the dog accidentally does get hit with the board it won't hurt them as much.

31:53: Dog life vests are very important.

31:55: Anywhere that a dog cannot touch the bottom at any time of water, definitely we suggest the dogs wear a life vest.

32:02: This is a question from my colleague, James's seven year old son.

32:06: He wanted to know if there are any particular dogs who are better at surfing.

32:11: It's all about the heart of the dog and the dog wanting to be out there.

32:14: Seeing a chihuahua, two Frenchies, two bulldogs.

32:18: Derby's actually a golden doodle.

32:20: I've seen labs and colleagues and all sorts of types of dogs that love to go out there.

32:24: The smaller dogs do a little better.

32:26: No, they don't have to be as tall on the board, but the bigger dogs do just as good.

32:30: And how does Derby prepare for this competition?

32:33: He just kind of looks at the waves and tells me where he wants to be and is ready to get out there.

32:37: Anytime we're near the beach he gets super excited.

32:40: That was Kentucky Galaue, speaking to Davina Gupta on behalf of his surfer dog Derby.

32:49: And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later.

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33:02: You can also find us on Twitter. This edition was mixed by Caroline Driscoll

33:06: and the producer was Emma Joseph. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Charlotte Gallagher. until next time. Goodbye.