Signalling error may be cause of deadly India train crash

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00:46: You're listening to the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service.

00:52: Hello, I'm Oliver Conway.

00:53: This edition is published in the early hours of Sunday 4 June.

00:57: Officials in India are examining whether a signaling error led to the train crash which killed 288 people.

01:03: Three Israeli soldiers and an Egyptian are killed near the border but was it a mistake?

01:08: fighting continues in Sudan. We hear about the threat to the treasures in the National

01:13: Museum. Also in the podcast it got off to a very fast start but who won the first all-manchester

01:22: FA Cup final. And...

01:24: the boy who's the first African artist to sell out a stadium here in the UK.

01:36: Afrobeats taking the world by storm.

01:42: The crash involving three trains in eastern India on Friday evening is now officially the third

01:48: most deadly on India's railways with 288 dead.

01:53: Preliminary investigation suggests an error with signaling may have been to blame, and

01:58: inquiries looking into a theory that an express train was diverted onto a loop line where

02:03: it smashed into a stationary goods train.

02:06: Its carriage is derailed and were then hit by a second passenger train.

02:11: One survivor described the scene as a bloodbath on the tracks.

02:15: Among the many people caught up in it were two brothers.

02:18: One survived, the other is missing.

02:20: His desperate father and brother have been looking for him.

02:25: I need help to trace my son.

02:27: I had never thought that this could ever happen.

02:30: I am restless.

02:31: I would prefer to die if I didn't trace my son.

02:36: My brother was sitting on a window seat just next to me.

02:39: Suddenly there was a sound of a bomb blast like a big bang.

02:43: All the ruffle came inside from windows and lights went off.

02:46: It was all dark.

02:48: the train turned upside down. I fell on a pile of people and many others fell on me. I somehow managed to come out.

02:55: Well on Saturday evening more than a day after the crash I got the latest from our correspondent at the scene, Archanashukla.

03:03: Well we are at the accident site and behind me you can see the wreckage of the three trains that collided last evening.

03:10: more than 26 hours, the rescue operations have been ongoing.

03:15: As we understand, most people who were trapped

03:17: have been pulled out from the wreckage

03:20: and now the maintenance work on the tracks

03:22: to get these tracks back online is ongoing

03:25: so that the train services that have been disrupted go online.

03:29: But the signs since afternoon when we came here

03:32: have not been one that you would want to be and see here.

03:37: The passage of families have been scouting for their loved ones, for their relatives.

03:41: Many of them not even knowing which hospital they have been sent to.

03:45: More than 288 casualties have been reported.

03:49: That's the official figure.

03:53: 1,175 people have been injured so far according to the official number declared in the evening.

03:58: And this is the scale of the train crash that India has not seen in many decades.

04:03: It's one of the deadliest.

04:04: There are many questions being raised here on how really three trains collided.

04:09: There are multiple scenarios being worked out.

04:11: There are conflicting versions of how the three trains collided and led up to a pile up.

04:16: We were in the biggest hospital here in the state in the city of Kuttak,

04:21: which is about three hours drive from this side, where all the critically injured passengers were being taken.

04:28: Every 30 minutes an ambulance coming into the hospital, referring in these critically injured passengers, passenger families really distressed, lost hopes,

04:38: this wreckage really just begs a lot of questions

04:41: that the Indian government and the Central Railway Ministry will need to answer.

04:46: I chana shookler at the sight of the crash.

04:48: Well earlier, the Indian Prime Minister,

04:50: Narendra Modi, visited the scene and promised

04:53: to bring anyone responsible for the accident to justice.

04:57: But they have long been safety concerns about Indian railways

05:01: and experts believe the government will be under more pressure to deal with them.

05:05: Yogi Tula-mai reports.

05:08: Cranes and other machines are being used to clear the wreckage off the crash,

05:12: strewn across miles of tracks in Balasor.

05:15: Some rail workers have told the BBC that the Coromandel Express,

05:18: going from Kolkata in the east to the southern city of Chennai,

05:22: collided with a stationary freight train on the same track.

05:26: Its coaches then overturned,

05:28: and were hit by another passenger train coming in the opposite direction.

05:32: But officials dispute this, saying all three trains were on different tracks

05:37: and they're still investigating why the Coromandel Express derailed.

05:40: Narin Ramo, the visited the site of the accident

05:43: and a hospital treating the injured where he promised action.

05:48: This is an extremely serious incident, he said.

05:50: I've ordered an inquiry into every detail.

05:53: Whoever is found guilty will be given stringent punishment.

05:57: They won't be spared.

05:58: Despite the Prime Minister's words, there will be questions for the government too.

06:02: It's invested heavily to modernise its real network.

06:06: But after this crash, many are now asking if safety has been the main priority.

06:11: Yogi Teh, lemai in India.

06:14: Three Israeli soldiers and an Egyptian policeman have been killed in an unusual incident on their

06:20: shared border. Israel says the Egyptian shot dead two Israelis in the early morning

06:26: before being killed, along with the third Israeli soldier in a gunfight.

06:30: Egypt said the deaths occurred after the Egyptian officer had crossed into Israel in pursuit of smugglers.

06:37: Israel and Egypt signed a peace deal in 1979, but there have been occasional incidents

06:41: on the border involving militants or smugglers.

06:44: Our correspondent in Cairo, Salina Bil, told me what was known.

06:49: From the Egyptian side, there was a statement issued by the spokesman of the army.

06:54: He has put this whole incident in the context of chasing a group of drug smugglers.

07:01: The statement said that an Egyptian security personnel was pursuing a group of drug smugglers

07:07: and he crossed into the Israeli side of the border and there was an exchange of fire

07:13: where three Israeli soldiers were killed, two others were injured and the Egyptian security

07:18: personnel himself lost his life in the crossfire.

07:22: that there were a lot of criticism directed to the Egyptian army because that statement

07:27: came after many hours and it's worth mentioning that this is a very rare incident to take place

07:34: across the Israeli Egyptian borders because since Egypt signed a peace treaty with Israel

07:39: more than 40 years ago, the borders have been relatively quiet.

07:43: So are they saying that the Israelis and the Egyptian were killed by drug smugglers?

07:49: Or was it a case of mistaken identity as the two sides exchanged fire?

07:54: Actually, there are many unanswered questions in this incident and many people on social

08:00: media are saying that there is a hidden side to this story that has not been revealed yet

08:06: neither by the Israelis nor by the Egyptians.

08:10: But what we understand from the statements we've been getting from both sides, there was

08:15: an exchange of fire. There were a number of people killed, but whether or not the firing came

08:21: from the drugs muddlers. No one is pretty sure about that. And the statements coming from the

08:27: Israeli side and also from the Egyptians saying that there are investigations underway and both

08:33: sides are cooperating to find out more about what happened, but whether or not that will be

08:39: revealed to the public, we have no answer to that. But it's also worth highlighting that,

08:45: although Egypt has signed a peace treaty with Israel, Israel among the Egyptian public is still

08:51: regarded as an enemy. And on social media, many have been referring to this Egyptian security

08:57: personnel who lost his life on the border today as a martyr. Sally Nebiel in Cairo.

09:03: Sudan's National Museum in Khartoum boasts one of the most comprehensive collections of

09:08: African art and archaeology in the world. But with the capital scarred by seven weeks of fighting

09:14: between two army factions, fears are growing for the safety of the artifacts on display.

09:20: As I heard from my Africa regional editor, Richard Hamilton.

09:23: The paramilitary, the RSF, entered the building and took control on Friday,

09:29: and there are fears that they will carry out looting and vandalism. One RSF officer took to

09:35: Facebook saying we're protecting it but we're not sure whether to believe that.

09:40: As you say it has priceless relics like embalmed mummies dating back to

09:45: two and a half thousand BC statues figurines pottery murals from ancient

09:50: Newbia and the Kingdom of Kush which was around a thousand BC then it has

09:55: relics from Greek Christian, Coptic, Islamic era and even parts of Egyptian

10:01: temples that were recovered from the Aswan Dam and they're in the garden of the museum.

10:08: So as you say, completely priceless relics.

10:11: Of course, Khartoum has been at the centre of the fighting in Sudan for weeks.

10:15: Do we know how much damage if any has been done to the museum already?

10:19: That's difficult to say because the museum staff, as soon as the conflict broke out, they

10:24: stopped working there and also the security guards left.

10:28: Though one Sudanese artist said he'd been trapped inside the building for two weeks and

10:33: had to live off water and artists' materials and some lemons.

10:38: There is video footage of ancient skeletons being opened from their coffins or boxes.

10:44: And the RSF guard saying that these skeletons are the victims of previous leader Omar Al-Bashir.

10:51: But that's clearly not the case because these skeletons are thought to be thousands of years old.

10:55: This footage has not been verified by the BBC, I must say, but it's been seen by the

11:00: news website called Middle East Eye, which has described it as the night of the living dead.

11:06: So it's fierce like the Taliban or ISIS in terms of destroying cultural relics.

11:11: Now, there have been numerous efforts to arrange ceasefires in Sudan.

11:15: What is the latest on the fighting?

11:16: The ceasefires have sort of turned out to be meaningless.

11:19: There were blasts heard today.

11:21: Witnesses talked to bombs falling and civilians being injured.

11:25: The red crescent has had to bury about 180 unidentified bodies, and there also reports

11:31: that the national broadcaster has been interrupted.

11:34: So that's another key target in this conflict.

11:37: Africa, regional editor Richard Hamilton.

11:40: The past month has seen Russia launch air attacks on Ukraine almost every other day.

11:45: But according to Vladimir Putin, it is the West and not Russia that is the aggressor,

11:51: that NATO hopes to destroy Russia, but to ordinary Russians actually believe that.

11:56: Our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg traveled 240 kilometers from Moscow to the town of Yara

12:02: Slavl to find out.

12:08: Life in Russia right now feels rather surreal.

12:15: In Yara Slavl, there are children singing pop songs.

12:19: dancing, balloons and candy floss. It's the annual city day celebration. War, what war? And then reality hits.

12:34: Walk past the drummers in Jubilee Park and you'll remind it of the special military operation. Russia's war in Ukraine.

12:43: We are doing this for our citizens.

12:47: Volunteers have set up stalls here.

12:49: Armed with needle and thread, they're making battlefield camouflage for Russian soldiers in Ukraine.

12:56: Balaklavas and Sox too, even stretches.

13:00: They believe the Kremlin narrative that the war in Ukraine is not Russia's fault.

13:06: I always think that Russian people never, never tried.

13:11: Russians never heard anyone until someone hurts them.

13:15: One of the volunteers, a teacher called Yelena, tells me,

13:18: the Russian bear won't hurt you if you don't threaten him.

13:22: That's the gold.

13:27: Once upon a time, the Russian bear viewed the west as friend, not foe.

13:33: In the center of Yarostable, there's a small commemorative stone.

13:38: The Rock of Friendship, they call it, listed here, are the names of Yaroslavl's twin towns,

13:44: like Exeter, Burlington, Virginia, and Patee, though some of these have suspended ties over the war in Ukraine.

13:53: Now, a local activist Sergei Kazansky is campaigning to have the Rock of Friendship removed.

14:00: We don't worry.

14:02: However we lose confidence in ourselves,

14:04: carved into this rock. Sergei tells me,

14:07: a twin town's from countries that are now Russia's enemies, because they are supporting Ukraine and supplying it with weapons.

14:15: If the West didn't help Ukraine,

14:17: the conflict would have been over long ago.

14:20: These frances get a minor feeling into there.

14:22: But then I ask passes by,

14:24: what they think about the idea of removing the monument.

14:27: Listen to what they tell me.

14:29: No, it's a story, I don't need to say anything.

14:31: No, leave it where it is, says Gleb.

14:34: History shouldn't be touched.

14:37: It's wrong to remove monuments.

14:39: Liliya says, we need to find a common language with each other.

14:47: We shouldn't break off relations completely, says Mikhail.

14:51: This will be over soon, and all countries will reconcile.

14:58: City Day ends with a firework display.

15:01: the cheering crowd a stark contrast to the horrors of war.

15:08: So what do I make of everything I've seen and heard in Yaroslavl?

15:13: It's true that many Russians do accept what state TV tells them

15:17: that the West is to blame for everything.

15:21: But not everyone here believes that, or wants a rupture with Europe and America.

15:26: But nevertheless, the invasion of Ukraine will have long-term consequences for Russia and for its relationship with the West.

15:38: Our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg.

15:40: It was a lot of history being made at the FA Cup final here in London on Saturday afternoon.

15:46: It was the first ever between Manchester City and Manchester United.

15:51: It was the second stage of a possible travel for the Premier League Champion City and it

15:55: saw an incredibly fast goal as I heard from Lee James at Wembley Stadium.

16:00: Breath taking start for Pep Guardiola's team wasn't it, it was the City Captain Ilke

16:05: Gunderone who was the match winner and ensuring his placing history with the quickest goal

16:09: in FA Cup final history. His stunning volley came after just 12 seconds. Manchester United

16:15: despite City's dominance did equalise from the penalty spot after 33 minutes when the video

16:19: assistant referee ruled that Jack Grielis should handle the ball Bruno Fernandez scored

16:24: from the sport, but Gunder 1 wasn't to be denied. He made the decisive contribution following

16:29: Kevin De Bruyne's free kick just after half to give the win. They lifted the FA Cup for

16:35: the 7th time. Gunder 1 lifted that trophy and the city captain said the early goal was a pleasant surprise.

16:41: We aim for that to go along for Elling and then to get the second ball and try to attack

16:45: quick. I guess it was for the first time the season we scored. The ball just was placed

16:50: It was amazingly for me and I just had to hit it.

16:53: Obviously it was quite good strike and it was amazing.

16:57: So disappointment for Manchester United as they weren't able to stop their rivals,

17:01: potentially matching their treble achievement but overall an improving season.

17:07: Yes, I think it will be when they reflect.

17:09: Obviously it's ended in bit of disappointment today with a cut final defeat to their neighbours.

17:13: That will be very hard to take for Eric Tenhag's side but they did lift the lead cup.

17:17: United's first trophy in six years.

17:19: They have returned to the Champions League after finishing third in the Premier League this season.

17:24: Let's hear from him today, they're after the defeat, proud of his team's efforts.

17:27: Once again, this team showed resilience, character. They have the personality and we know

17:32: we have a way to go, but this make us better. It was the test. We didn't succeed,

17:37: but I think we can take a lot of positives to the next season.

17:41: So Manchester City the winners today all over and there could be still more to come, of course.

17:45: they face internationally and the Champions League final next Saturday and Sportsworld will come live from Istanbul.

17:52: Lee James at Wembley Stadium in London.

17:57: And still to come on the global news podcast.

17:59: When the Epson Derby was being run police were lining the railings.

18:02: You wouldn't see that normally at a horse race and then wearing top hats were asked to take

18:07: them off so stewards could check nothing was being hidden underneath.

18:10: I was there so much security at one of the world's most famous horse races.

18:23: The Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has long been criticized for his unorthodox

18:28: economic policies, lowering rather than raising interest rates to tackle inflation.

18:33: But after being sworn in as President for a third term, he has signaled a possible change

18:38: of direction by naming a traditional economist, Mehmet Shimshek, as finance minister. He's

18:45: also appointed Haqqan Fidam, the former intelligence chief as the new foreign minister. Following

18:51: his narrow and bitterly fought election win last week, Mr Erdogan called for unity after his inauguration.

18:58: Turkey needs the energy, ideas and contributions of every citizen. All members of Turkey's

19:09: 85 million population should stick together, just like Bricks forming a wall. Turkey needs unity

19:15: and solidarity more than ever as a nation. We need to reestablish our strong unity.

19:23: Alex Ritsson asked Berja Shimshek from the BBC Turkish Service if the finance minister's

19:28: appointment had been a surprise. This has been talked about for the past couple of days,

19:34: but it is a surprise in the sense that it marks at departure from years of unorthodox economic

19:42: policies under Erdogan because like the Erdogan has been in favor of lowering the interest rates,

19:50: saying that if we lower the interest rates, we will bring more investment to the country

19:57: and then it will basically create more job opportunities but it's the exact opposite of the way

20:03: most economists say it, isn't it? Exactly. And it proved wrong. So it means that the new

20:10: finance minister will probably make a U-turn from this policy because he is not an S-someone

20:17: who is in favor of rising the interest rates and he is actually highly regarded by investors.

20:24: He had been a finance minister before a deputy prime minister between 2009 and 2018.

20:30: So he has not someone foreign to invest in.

20:34: Berziszim Žek of the BBC Turkish Service.

20:37: Tests are being carried out in Mexico on 45 bags of human remains recently found in a ravine

20:44: outside the western city of Guadalajara. They were discovered as part of a search for seven

20:49: cool center workers who'd been reported missing. Patrick McDonald is Mexico City Buraci for the

20:54: Los Angeles Times. He spoke to Julian Warica. It's a very complicated and obviously tragic and

21:00: sad case, but it seems like eight in total were told now. Six young men, two young women,

21:05: all in their 20s and 30s had jobs in what they call a call center, which are very popular

21:09: in Mexico, especially among young people who speak some English. They told their family

21:13: they were helping foreigners by vacation homes, but it turns out allegedly it was part

21:18: of a broader scam that happens quite a bit in Mexico of organized crime, essentially

21:22: trying to rip off foreigners who try to buy vacation homes or so-called time shares in the resort properties in Mexico,

21:31: the place had been functioning in clandestine fashion

21:33: since November, something went wrong in May

21:36: and one by one, these young people tragically started disappearing.

21:40: The families reported them and no one knew

21:41: what was going on until a couple of days ago,

21:44: some butchered bodies showed up in 45 plastic bags in a ravine outside of Guadalajara,

21:50: which is close to where they were working.

21:52: And authorities are still working on identifying whom those remains belong to,

21:57: but District of Furniture and Wadalhada has already said

22:00: that they appear to be the remains of those eight missing

22:03: young people who were working at that call center.

22:06: Which is the most grizzly of discoveries?

22:09: What's been the local reaction to something like this?

22:12: You know, it's Mexico, and the elemental leaders,

22:14: a lot of, something like 115,000 disappeared people.

22:19: Wadalhada is in the state of Halesca,

22:20: which is kind of a leader in this, lamentably.

22:22: So of course, there have been protests,

22:24: which have coincided with other street protests or other disappeared people.

22:29: You know, what I'm gonna, is the second city of Mexico

22:31: is a major cultural and economic hub.

22:33: Tomorrow there's an opening of an international film festival there which draws thousands of people from all over the world.

22:38: It's a very sophisticated city.

22:40: And yet these things happen alongside that daily life.

22:45: It's certainly shocking.

22:46: I think what people listening might be puzzled over

22:49: is the idea that a group of young people

22:50: who are doing an innocent job like working in a call center,

22:54: find themselves caught up in something linked

22:57: to organize crime with this horrific ending.

23:00: You're absolutely right, stunned us all,

23:02: but I mean, as the details came out, it was a clandestine call center.

23:05: It was allegedly connected to organized crime, including a very important mob,

23:10: which generates a lot of funds apparently from these kinds of scams,

23:14: in which they call up people many of them in the United States

23:17: and basically tell them that their time share

23:19: needs to be sold or there's a renter

23:21: or they managed to extort a lot of money out of people from telephone scams.

23:25: The wider picture in Mexico and in the figures are extraordinary, more than 100,000 official disappearances.

23:32: It seems to be a problem on an enormous scale that the authorities simply can't successfully tackle.

23:38: It's so true, you know, I work for a time in Buenos Aires and after the dirty war there,

23:43: but they had figures of up to 30,000 people disappeared.

23:46: Those were largely political disappearances.

23:48: Here it's organized crime, but the scope here is such that it's become such a normal thing

23:53: to find clandestine graves with a few or a dozen or several

23:57: score people that it often doesn't merit much of a headline.

24:01: It speaks frankly to the lack of control that the government has

24:05: over much as a country to organize crime.

24:07: Patrick McDonald, Mexico City Bureau Chief for the Los Angeles

24:10: Times. Now, could this be an important step in the battle against

24:14: plastic pollution representatives from 175 countries have

24:19: agreed to drop the first draft of a global treaty by November. Plastic waste is expected

24:24: to almost triple by 2060 while plastic debris is estimated to kill more than a million

24:30: seabirds and 100,000 sea mammals every year. Andrew Ocching has details of the talks in

24:36: Paris.

24:37: I see no objection, it is so decided.

24:42: Just getting to the point where countries could agree to put together a draft treaty wasn't easy.

24:48: The first two days of the talks were dominated by debates about procedure, fueled largely

24:53: by fossil fuel supply, Saudi Arabia and major plastic producers like China and India.

25:00: But on Friday, the countries agreed that the treaty should be drafted by November, ahead

25:05: of a third round of talks in Kenya next year.

25:08: It's hoped it will be a legally binding instrument which will help carb plastic pollution across

25:14: the world. Negotiators and activists say there is no time to waste given the current state

25:19: of the problem. The UN says plastic debris is estimated to kill more than a million sea

25:25: bags and 100,000 marine mammals each year. Here is Camila Zepeda, a negotiator from Mexico.

25:36: We see that the trend is by 2050 there will be more plastic rubbish than fish in the ocean.

25:42: and that therefore we have to take international action to solve the issue.

25:48: In humans, microscopic pieces of plastic have been detected in blood, breast milk and placenters.

25:54: Whilst still, just less than 10% of it is recycled, and more than a fifth dumped or banned illegally.

26:01: Eric Lindberger from the Environmental Group WWF is hoping for a comprehensive draft.

26:07: We believe that an ambitious treaty needs to have global bands and face-outs of the most high-risk and harmful plastic products.

26:16: And finally, we think that the treaty must include strong financial mechanisms to support developing countries in implementing the treaty.

26:24: The negotiators hope the treaty will be signed in early 2025.

26:28: A report by Andrew Ochiang.

26:30: One of the world's most famous horse races, the Epsom Derby, has passed off largely without

26:35: incident despite the threat of disruption by animal rights activists.

26:40: The BBC's John Hunt was commentating at the finish line.

26:43: King of Steel hits the front, chased by one of the favourites,

26:46: or Gustro Dan, King of Steel, or Gustro Dan though, is moving to top gear.

26:51: They have come about a-lings clear of whitebirds staying on in third.

26:56: What a battle to the line, or Gustro Dan just getting on top,

27:00: Oh, Gusto Dan won the Derby for Aiden of Bryan and Ryder Ryinmore.

27:06: A huge security operation had been put in place at the course south of London to deal with any potential problems.

27:13: As Charlotte Gallagher explained,

27:16: We saw what happened at the Grand National in April.

27:19: Activists got onto the course and they delayed the start of the race.

27:22: So organisers here managed to get an injunction, but some activists said they were willing to break the law.

27:29: One man managed to climb over the railings and was on the course when the race started.

27:35: The Jockey Club, which owns this race course, has said that was incredibly dangerous.

27:40: The group behind that protest, Animal Rising, they've said he was on the track before it

27:44: started and they allowed the race to start when he was there.

27:47: So they're blaming the organizers of the Epson Derby.

27:50: Obviously there has been loads of police when the Epson Derby was being run, for example, police were lining the railings.

27:56: You wouldn't see that normally at a horse race.

27:58: members of the race course were asked to take them off so stewards could check nothing

28:04: was being hidden underneath. This group animal rising says horse racing is incredibly

28:09: cruel. They don't believe animals should be used for sport, should be used for entertainment,

28:15: horse racing officials say. They've spent millions and millions of dollars protecting

28:20: horse welfare and they say the sport has never been safer. But if you do look at the Grand

28:25: national three horses died during that race. And that's what animal rights

28:29: campaigners point to and they say one fatality is too many let alone three in one

28:34: race. And then what of the race itself? Today was a goodbye to Epsom from Frankie

28:39: Duttony, one of the most famous jockeys in the world. He was aiming for his

28:43: third win in the Epsom Derby. Sadly for him it wasn't to be. Instead Ryan

28:48: Moore clinched his third race, the jockey, the third victory for him. Aiden O'Brien,

28:53: the Irish trainer broke his own record, won it for the night time. The horse, Augusta

28:58: Redan apparently, is going home back to the stables for some extra hate tonight.

29:02: Charlotte Gallagher at the Epsom Derby South of London.

29:06: The Nigerian singer, Berner Boy, has become the first African artist to headline a concert

29:11: in a British stadium. The Grammy Award-winning star played to a packed-out crowd at the Olympic

29:17: Park in East London. It's the latest example of how Afro beats and other African music have

29:23: one new fans around the world. Eddie Caddy, who presents the official UK Afrobeat's

29:28: chart show on BBC Radio 1 Extra, spoke to Caroline Wyatt.

29:32: Afro-Can-Music has always been popular. I feel like this is maybe the second or third

29:38: cycle, you know, if you go back to the ages of our fellow cootie. Who was noted to be

29:47: collaborating with people like Paul McCartney, Frank Cole from TPOK Jazz.

29:56: This is not the first African music that has been at the forefront.

29:59: Now, what's happening with social media and how the world is so vastly connected.

30:03: The young Africans have decided to actually infuse our own B music, hip-hop music, jazz,

30:09: and all types of music from the Westerns to create this new genre.

30:13: And of course, also when we look at the aspirants that have grown outside of the continent,

30:17: in America, hearing the UK all the way down to Australia.

30:20: They've been able to play a great part in actually making sure that African music

30:25: has become part of the culture where they're actually living right now.

30:33: You currently were looking at Burnt and Boyd who's a first African artist to sell out a stadium here in the UK.

30:47: You know these are some of the big names but we also go to South Africa

30:50: and we're looking at some of the biggest names when it comes to the Amapyanas scene.

30:53: In Musa Keys, who's probably going to be one of the biggest Afrobees songs right now called

30:58: Unavailable with David O. We've recently seen Tiwa Savage.

31:01: T1, T1. T1 savages that's something amazing at the King's Covenation. And that's a homegrown

31:08: talent from the UK, grew up in Northwest London and has gone over to take over the world.

31:19: The list goes on and on and on. And also gaining recognition like winning awards.

31:24: Absolutely gaining recognition. We recently looked at the Grammy Awards with the one and only

31:29: Bernaboy, Whiskid recently before that best video with Beyonce.

31:41: And when we talk about recognition, we look at someone who's now become a prominent part of the

31:45: chart in Libyanca and her song People, which has been a lot of people's favorites.

31:50: I walked in the room, I was at the night, don't smoke, banga.

31:56: Elibian can be sized in America, but comes from Cameroon, another region where great music is coming out of us.

32:03: These artists are going around the world, literally just collecting recommendations because

32:08: the music is really what we're supposed to be at the top.

32:11: Young Rema, who's just also done a salato in India, who would have thought that Afrobeats would be selling out in India.

32:17: Number one is Saudi Arabia going all the way to China.

32:28: When we look at Rammesong calm down.

32:30: Selena Gomez comes into the remix of the without song and takes it to another level.

32:43: Breaking records all over the world.

32:45: And I think this is just a tip of the iceberg.

32:47: We really just started to see where Afrobeat's African music in general can go because the music hasn't got limits in terms of the style.

32:55: I think everybody will let everyone to know that there is more to African music than just Afrobeat.

33:05: Eddie Caddy on the rise of Afrobeat's.

33:11: And that's all from us for now, but there'll be a new edition of the Global News podcast very soon.

33:15: This one was mixed by Dafferth Evans and produced by Emma Joseph, our editor is Karen Martin.

33:20: I'm Oliver Conway.

33:22: Until next time, goodbye.