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I'm Alex Ritson and at 13 hours GMT on Tuesday 8 August, these are our main stories.
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United Nations investigators say they've gathered evidence of frequent and
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brazen war crimes by Myanmar's military. A BBC investigation into widespread sexual abuse
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and violence by supposed spiritual healers in Sudan and Morocco. A report from the Amazon as South
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American leaders gather to try and stop the chopping of the rainforest.
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Also in this podcast, July was the world's hottest month ever, according to EU scientists.
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At a start warning from the US Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken to the co-leaders in
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Niger about Russia's Wagner mercenaries.
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Every single place that this group, Wagner Group, has gone.
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Death, destruction and exploitation have followed.
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We begin in Myanmar where UN investigators say there's been a dramatic increase in war
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crimes and crimes against humanity under the military junta.
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We got more details from our Geneva correspondent, Imogen Fogs.
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This is their annual report looking at the period July 22 to July 23.
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They have hundreds, more than 700 sources, including 200 eyewitness accounts.
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have satellite imagery, forensic evidence, and what they're pointing to particularly are
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what they say are really indiscriminate attacks on civilians from the bombing of entire villages,
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burning villages, mass execution of civilians detained during military operations as well as
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mass executions of detained fighters. And the investigators completely dismiss Myanmar's claim
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that only opposition fighters are targeted—this is a purely, strictly military operation—they
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say that is absolutely not the case. They should have, indeed, possibly did know that they were intended to target civilians.
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To reports like this, they make any difference.
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Well, that is a really good question, because traditionally, you and human rights reports their power lies simply in publicity.
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They carefully investigate and then they publish their findings.
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But this rather clunky UN independent investigative mechanism is designed to build cases which can be used in prosecutions.
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So the investigators are building case files on individuals leading Myanmar, leaders in its military.
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And the evidence that they have can be and indeed is being passed to bodies like the International
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Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice.
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So there is the potential at least for prosecutions, for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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Which will scare presumably the military leaders.
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Well it will certainly tell them that it's going to be a bit risky for them to ever leave me on Mar.
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We have seen these prosecutions in the past, but typically, if you look at, for example,
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the former Serbian leader, Slubod and Milosevic, he had to lose power and was then delivered to the hage.
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Others you see with the Syria war crimes trials that people who have passed as refugees
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into Europe are then tried with countries using universal jurisdiction and trying them on their territory.
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So it's either lose power or leave Myanmar.
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We will see Myanmar's military in court, but not before that.
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Imagine folks in Geneva.
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July saw forest fires across large areas of North America, southern Europe and northern
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Africa, severe heat waves in South America and China, and typhoons and flooding across much of Asia.
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Now, it's been confirmed that last month was the hottest ever recorded on Earth.
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The European Union's climate observatory, Copernicus, says the average global temperature
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was 16.6 Celsius, a third of a degree higher than the previous record in 2019.
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While that may not sound very warm to some people, it is very significant as our environment correspondent Matt McGrath told me.
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You're right, it doesn't sound like an awful lot considering some of the temperatures
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we've seen around the world in the 30s and 40s over the last couple of weeks.
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But you have to remember this is a global average taken from billions of readings, from
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aircraft, from satellites, from weather stations all over the world, and it's day and night,
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it's from valleys and mountains. So it's a very comprehensive view across the world.
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And as you say, July this year was the hottest on record, hotter than July 2019 by about a
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third of a degree, but the long-term average here, and the long-term average is only from 1990 to 2020.
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it beats the July figure for that period of three decades by three quarters of a degree.
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And I think scientists will see that as very significant that even in the recent decades,
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it's three quarters of a degree warmer than those figures.
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And with scientists have repeated last week's warning about ocean temperatures too.
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Yes, indeed, the ocean temperatures last week were peaking around 21 degrees.
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There were just the Gulf of Mexico described as being as warm as a bath.
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And I think this record from Copernicus also shows that this has been happening for several months
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now including July. We saw that temperatures have been going up since April in the North Atlantic.
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That was about one degree warmer than average in July. And all of this is compounded by heat waves
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at sea, these big marine heat waves of the cold, threatening species. And also reducing the ability
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of the oceans to absorb carbon dioxide, which may in turn make warming worse in the near future.
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Warnings are all well and good, though, but it does sometimes fail as scientists with reports
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like this are just shouting into the abyss.
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I think there's a real danger here that both for politicians and for many people that we're
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becoming ennured to record breaking, becoming used, if you like, to these kind of record-breaking
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temperatures that people are reporting. And I think that, you know, governments and people
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are also realizing that making the changes to move away from fossil fuels, which are the main cause
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of these rising temperatures, is an expensive business and difficult for many people to do in the
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midst of a global cost-to-living crisis. But I think, and I fear, that over the rest of the year,
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we will see more records and more data as el-Ninial kicks into gear in the waters of South
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America, driving temperatures ever higher. I think politicians come the big climate meeting
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at the end of this year, we'll have to make some very tough decisions faced with the reality
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of climate change as we're experiencing it now. Matt McGraw. Climate change and how to tackle it
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is also at the top of the agenda in the Brazilian city of Bellem, leaders from South American
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countries that share the Amazon rainforest. A meeting to discuss measures to save it.
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The latest figures show deforestation has fallen by 66 percent since Brazil's President
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Lula came to power. After several years of rising deforestation under far-rightly debt
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giant Bolsonaro, Lula has promised zero deforestation by 2030.
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Is that an impossible task? Our South America correspondent Katie Watson reports from the most deforested state in Brazil.
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Delegates are being welcomed with a lively folkloric dance routine as they pass through
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rivals at Belling airport. President Lula De Silva called this summit to bring together the
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eight South American nations who share a slice of the Amazon to find ways of protecting it.
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I think the world needs to look at this meeting in Belling as a milestone he told me last week.
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I've participated in several meetings and many times they talk, talk, talk, approve a document and nothing happens.
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This meeting is the first great opportunity for people to show the world what we want to do.
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For those on the ground though, it's been a difficult few years.
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Hobbes and Goncalves lives a 13-hour boat ride from Belén on Ilya Nemarujo.
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This part of Brazil has been the hardest hit by deforestation.
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You have no idea how much pressure there was in our community under the Bolsonaro government.
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Lent owners, circling the planes, soya farmers wanting to buy the land to deforest it.
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The Hobson's community stood firm and then having courted by a newer industry.
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Businesses that emit carbon dioxide can buy carbon credits to offset the pollution they create
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and those credits can be found in sustainable projects.
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But such is the growth of this industry, carbon credit companies operating in Elid
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de Marajoy have been accused of harassing people to sign their contracts.
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Much of the problems arise because the state is so absent in the Amazon.
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Paras public prosecutor has since got involved to hope projects that have caused concern.
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Prosecutor Eliani Moreira has helped draw up guidelines in what is still an unregulated market.
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In the state is on there, it creates a no-mins land where anything can happen.
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On the banks of the Amazon River, Hernandez Pandoria is hopeful that carbon credits can give him a better future.
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He proudly shows off his assay in Cacao plantations.
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The machinery and training were provided for by CarbonX, a Brazilian carbon credit company that's received investment funding from Shell.
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Just last year we took five illegal sawmirs from Arlen.
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The community knows that defending their territory from illegal logging is a challenge on their
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own, but partnering with a company like CarbonX with the funds behind it is the best way forward.
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We won't support to live after our forests.
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We don't want to cut down trees anymore.
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For CarbonX, empowering the communities to look after their land is important.
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Janine Dullan is the CEO.
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When Global North comes to Global South and say, I have a solution.
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We're like, really?
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Have you been to the Amazon?
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How do you know?
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What's good for them?
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How can you solve that problem?
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If you've never been there, you don't have your boots on the ground.
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People on the ground in the Amazon and those at the summit this week had determined to
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make South America's voice heard when it comes to climate change.
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Katie Watson.
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The world's second biggest economy is having problems.
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China has suffered big falls in both exports and imports.
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Exports for July were 14.5% down on the year before the weakest level since February 2020.
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As Nick Marsh reports from our Asia Business Hub in Singapore,
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China appears to be suffering from the economic version of Long COVID.
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These figures for trade are actually even worse than economists had anticipated in terms
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of exports. It's the weakest data since back in February 2020 when China, of course, was
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right in the thick of the pandemic. Why is this data so bad? Well, it's mainly to do with
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China's customers abroad. They're really struggling with high inflation, high interest rates,
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so they're spending less money on Chinese goods. And if you're a policymaker in Beijing,
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well, it's difficult to say what you should do about that. You can't just force other
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countries to start buying more of your goods. But there's also more to contend with. If you look at
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the spending within China, that's also looking not very encouraging at the moment. Tomorrow,
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we're expecting some more figures to be coming out, which will probably show deflation.
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Price is actually going down in China. That's a bit more difficult to explain, but there are
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some people who think that China's zero-coded policy went on for so long that customers just
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start ready to splurge post-pandemic, like they did in Europe, like they did in the United States.
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So you've got problems outside of China.
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People not ready to spend on Chinese goods and within China as well.
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Nick Marsh.
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If you use your laptop in public, you might want to be careful about who might be listening
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in. Researchers in Britain have shown it's possible to work out what you're typing
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by recording the sound of tapping on your keyboard and then putting it through an AI model.
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The paper by researchers from Durham, Surrey and Royal Holloway universities was published
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at the European Symposium on Security and Privacy.
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My colleague Oliver Conway spoke to the lead author Joshua Harrison.
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This paper was a proof of concept in which we tried to show the possibility of a machine
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learning models at recognising which key is being pressed, purely based off the sound
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recorded from just an iPhone sat nearby on a table. No further away than you might get
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to someone sat next to a coffee shop. We recorded a big amount of key presses on this laptop,
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then we filtered them through this machine learning model and the machine learning model
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broke a good amount of records in terms of the accuracy of the predictions that it made.
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you gave it a sound, how well could it predict that sounds key from the recordings that we made?
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So each key has a different sound and it's able to work out from the sound which key you've hit.
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Yes, so if you think of a drum, the different areas that you hit on the drum will make different
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noises and there's not so dissimilar a system going on here where you have in this case, I'll
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laptop with four feet on the table and where you hit on that plate, that metal plate with
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four feet on the table is going to change the sound similar to that drum.
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And so these little variations in the sounds that are produced when you hit those keys
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and be picked up with something like, in our case, a deep learning algorithm.
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So with this only work on, say, a traditional keyboard rather than if you're tapping on your smartphone, for example.
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model specifically works on the model of laptop that we tested. But in terms of touch
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screen specifically, these have been found to be vulnerable to using the microphone in
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the device. So for example, if we were on FaceTime and you were typing on your phone while
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we were on FaceTime, I'm listening to those taps through the microphones in your device.
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And those in different papers that we have cited, those papers have found that these
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touch screens are vulnerable to a similar kind of attack where the different bumps and sounds
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coming from you typing on that touchscreen are detectable within the microphones of your phone.
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But in your experiment, you found that if someone was typing away and you had this computer
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listening in, it would more or less know what is being typed.
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So the way our experiment works is you take a bunch of random recordings of these key
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and yeah, given that that bunch of random data, it was able to predict 95% of those keys,
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what we're trying to show with paper or what this paper does show is that specifically machine
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learning is provably quite good at this better than other models that have been used in the past.
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And so the likelihood of someone being able to exploit these flaws, the flaws being, the sound
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a keyboard makes. That likelihood does go up with this paper showing that progress.
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Software engineer Joshua Harrison.
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Still to come in the global news podcast. A few moments before the court
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has passed, there was a massive sing-along people broke out into their own version of nothing compares to you.
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An update from Ireland on the funeral of singer
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Shunne Do Conner.
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Walking out into that stadium and everybody's there.
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There's just such a big crowd and so much family and noise.
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It's a dream.
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I remember growing up and watching the Olympics
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and realizing that, you know, one day this could be me.
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An event that the whole world recognizes.
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to win was something I had never imagined.
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A podcast about the incredible journeys of Olympic and Paralympic athletes.
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On the podium from the BBC World Service, find it wherever you get your BBC podcasts.
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Niger was a key ally of the United States until last month's coup,
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the seventh military takeover in West and Central Africa since 2020.
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It comes as the Russian-Murson-Rigrupp Vagna stepped up activity in the region.
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It's been courting several African governments.
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The United States sent a top official, Victoria Nulund, Tunisia,
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to try to pave the way for a restoration of democracy.
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But after talks, she said no progress had been made.
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The BBC's where he get Moira spoke to her boss,
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the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken,
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and began by asking him if the site of Russian flags on the streets of the capital,
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and the Army was of concern to the US.
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For sure, we have concerns when we see something like the Wagner Group possibly manifesting
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itself in different parts of the Sahel.
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And here's why we're concerned, because every single place that this group, Wagner Group,
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has gone death, destruction, and exploitation have followed.
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Insecurity has gone up, not down.
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It hasn't been a response to the needs of the countries in question for greater security.
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I think what happened and what continues to happen in Niger
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was not instigated by Russia or by Wagner,
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but to the extent that they try to take advantage of it.
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And we see a repeat of what's happened in other countries
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where they brought nothing but bad things in their wake.
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That wouldn't be good.
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Would you, with the troops of the US,
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stay in Niger if the coup holds?
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Well, I don't want to get into hypotheticals.
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We get ahead of what's happening in Niger.
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We strongly support the work that Eko Was is doing
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to try to help restore the constitutional order.
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In Niger, I've been in close touch with President Bazaum with many colleagues in the region, including the Nigerian president
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to Nubu, colleagues at the African Union.
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And it's very important that that constitutional order be restored.
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And right now, I think,
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Iqawas is playing an important role
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in moving the country back in that direction.
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Secretary of State, for those who support
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the halting of the Black Sea grain deal or I really look at it.
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They argue that the West is mainly concerned about Russia's growing influence over Africa
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and the issue isn't just about food supply bearing in mind only 3 percent of Ukraine's
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grain actually got to the African continent.
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Do you have any views on that?
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Well, again, the majority of the grain that was getting out through the Black Sea grain
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initiative, more than 50 percent was going to develop in countries, including many in
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Africa, two-thirds of the wheat going to developing countries, including countries in Africa.
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But meanwhile, what's so important is this, resolving this situation, Russia getting back
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into the Black Sea Grand Initiative, would be the quickest thing anyone could do to actually effectively address food insecurity.
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The US Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken.
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Spiritual healing is very popular in many countries in the Middle East, but there have been concerns
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as the practice is not regulated. Now, a BBC News Arabic investigation has uncovered allegations
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of widespread sexual abuse and coercion by spiritual healers in Sudan and Morocco.
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80 women accused healers of offenses including rape, sexual assault and manipulating them
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into sex. Hanan Razek visited Sudan before the recent conflict and sent this report,
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which contains distressing details of sexual abuse and violence.
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At this center in Khartoum, women believe that spiritual healing can cure illnesses and
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solve emotional problems while expelling evil spirits.
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Shaykh Fautama is one of the few women who works as a healer.
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The practice is unregulated.
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She says many of the women she sees have been sexually exploited.
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Every woman told us that part of the treatment involved the sheikh or heeler touching part of their body.
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Out of 100 women undoubtedly a quarter of them would have been sexually abused.
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One of the women sheikh of Akma is helped is Sousa.
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He said he would have sex with me and use the resulting body fluids to concoct a potion
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I should feed to my husband.
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He said this is the treatment.
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In the first investigation of its kind, we spent months verifying stories of abuse.
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Fifty women in Sudan accused 40 healers of harassment, assault, and manipulating them into sex.
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Afef is one of those women.
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She went to a healer called Sheikh Brahim to help with her son's illness.
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As you lay fe hekabdir.
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I saw his shadow behind me, then he grobbed me.
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When he approached me, I swore to God I would scream and alert his children.
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I took his hands off me and I left.
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After hearing accounts from two other women, we sent an undercover journalist to visit the healer.
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While we were speaking, I suddenly found him next to me.
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I'll do prayers and recite 5,000 times over prayer beads.
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He put his hand on my thigh.
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I pushed his hand away.
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Then he put his hand on my stomach and pushed one of his fingers all the way down.
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With that touch I got up and left.
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We contacted Sheikh Rebrahim to put our allegations to him and he agreed to be interviewed.
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I asked him if he had ever tried to have sex with women who had come for treatment.
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Only treatment, I only do treatment.
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What about our evidence that he had sexually assaulted women, including our own journalist?
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No, no, that didn't happen. God will hold her accountable for that.
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Then, he abruptly ended the interview.
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We brought our evidence to Alaydina Buzait and advisor to the Islamic Affairs Ministry.
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It's become a profession for those who have no profession.
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We don't deny there are sexual anomalies.
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We undoubtedly support Tremor with the Quran, but in the Quran form, it's chaos.
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With no help coming from the authorities for women like our FF, she has her own advice.
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I tell them to forget about the healer and to solve their problems in another way.
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That's report by Hanan Razek.
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In 1959, the Soviet Union made history with the first uncrewed landing on the moon.
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Soviet Russia scores a dramatic victory in the exploration of space with the launching of the first rocket to the moon,
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an historic scientific feat, bearing the Soviet coat of arms and hammer and sickle penance in travel 35 hours through space.
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More than 60 years later, Russia is hoping to return to the moon.
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The Lunar 25 lander, which is due to launch on Friday, aims to take and analyze soil samples and conduct long-term scientific research.
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Originally, the project was to have been a joint venture with the European Space Agency,
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but all cooperation with Moscow was ended following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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Thomas Harsensky works for the European Space Policy Institute.
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Gary Adonahu asked him why Russia was returning to the lunar surface now.
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I would say it's not the programme or the mission itself is not really a new development.
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As often in the space sector, the missions and specially missions that are really ambitious
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that go maybe to other celestial bodies, take years to emerge from the initial idea to the actual launch of the mission.
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I suppose going to the moon is in space terms, a bit of a sort of muscle flex, isn't it?
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It's what countries want to do when they want to prove their space credentials.
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I would argue that it is becoming such again.
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For maybe the 10, 20, 30 years, if you look to the past, we haven't really seen so much activity.
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I mean, we can say that it has been done in the past, like with the US, with the Soviets,
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but it's still not that easy to go to the moon to softly land there.
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There has been some unsuccessful tries, for instance, with some of the recent missions like
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the Israeli mission or the recent private landing mission by the ice-based company.
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But yes, you write in a sense of it has sort of become again kind of a matter of a prestige.
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The technological advancements in the sector have driven down the cost of accessing space
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or flying to space or purchasing space technologies, which basically opens up the possibilities
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of such ambitious and costly endeavors also to some smaller actors.
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And yes, indeed, we are seeing that more countries and especially smaller countries are now going back to the moon.
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It's an interesting decision for them to press ahead with this at a time where money must
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be short politically inside Russia with them fighting the war in Ukraine and all that.
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Is the space program in Russia well funded?
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And past maybe 10-15 years, what has really kind of a surface in terms of space news or
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space policy from Russia has not really been good news.
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There has been a lot of indications of a very strong presence of corruption in the Russian space agency.
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It has changed its structure several times.
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The leaderships have changed.
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This is clearly a signal that something is not right in the Russian space program.
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the space program have not been able to kind of sustain the levels of investments when
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you compare to the GDP or to the overall public expenditure as it has been during the Soviet
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era. And more recently there have been a game, some budget cut. But what we have clearly
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seen is that the achievements that the Soviet Union has been successful in achieving in
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the past, Russia has not been able to repeat it in the past few years. And I think that
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it's really signaling that the Russian space program has not been able to sustain the excellence
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compared to the Soviet program in the Cold War.
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Thomas Razzenskiy from the European Space Policy Institute.
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The Vaketa Purpose found on Mexico's Pacific coast
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is on the verge of extinction, with only around 10 animals still surviving.
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The Vaketa is the smallest of all the purposes,
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similar to dolphins, but with shorter beaks and more rounded bodies.
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Now, the International Wailing Commission
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has issued the first extinction alert in its 70-year history
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to one of the danger facing the Vikita,
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I spoke to our science correspondent Helen Briggs.
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The main problem for the Vikita is entanglement in Gillnet.
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So these are these flat fishing nets suspended vertically in the water.
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Now, fishing with Gillnet has been banned in Mexico, but illegal Gillnet fishing goes on,
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and that's driven by the high prices poachers can get
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for an endangered fish called the Tatober, prized for its swim bladder in Chinese medicine
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and sold for vast profits on the black market.
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So there are efforts to clamp down on illegal guill� fishing.
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Last year, for example, the Mexican Navy placed concrete blocks in an area to try and stop
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this guill� fishing and increased enforcement efforts.
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there are questions over whether enough is being done and diplomatic tensions over this
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between the US and Mexico and also concerns by sighties the body that regulates trade
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in endangered species. Yeah, poachers notoriously tend to care very little about issues like this,
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so there are any reasons to think that the Vikita purpose isn't going to be gone within
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fairly short time. This message from the IWC, the International Wailing Commission,
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does speak of a grim future for this creature. But it says it's speaking out now because it
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believes extinction is not yet inevitable. So there is a glimmer of hope. And scientists,
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a few years back, did actually do some DNA testing on samples of these purposes. And they
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reckon that actually there is enough genetic diversity in this population, even though
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it's down to ten. If you were to be able to stop this fishing and the population were
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able to recover naturally, there's no reason why it couldn't bounce back. But increasing
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concerns about whales, dolphins, porpoises, the cetaceans and the IWC acting now to highlight
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some of these extinction threats. And I think we're likely to see more of these warnings from the IWC.
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Helen Briggs.
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Ireland has been saying farewell to the singer,
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Shenado Conner, on the day she was buried.
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The streets of the town of Bray were filled with crowds paying their respects.
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Our reporter, Sarah Gervin, was among them.
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Despite her international stardom,
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Shenado Conner was part of the community
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in this seaside town for 15 years.
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Today, that community turned out to mourn, celebrate,
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and honour her as a singer and as an activist.
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The thoisons of Vans who lined the root of her final journey sang and danced as her
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greatest hits blasted out from a van decked in floors and pride flags as her funeral
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court hedge passed by her former home they fell silent.
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But just for a moment before Applaus broke out.
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After that a private burial.
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the end of a life live for so many years in the public gaze.
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Sarah Gavin.
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And that's all from us for now.
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But there'll be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later.
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This edition was mixed by Chris A Blackwa and the producer was Anna Murphy.
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The editor is Karen Martin.
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I'm Alex Ritz and until next time, goodbye.