US special counsel to investigate Biden's son Hunter

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00:37: I'm Andrew Peachan in the early hours of Saturday 12 August. These are our main stories.

00:42: The US Attorney General has given a federal prosecutor extra powers to investigate President

00:47: Joe Biden's son Hunter over allegations of improper business dealings overseas.

00:53: In Brazil, have searched the homes of four people connected to the form of President

00:57: Chaya Bolsonaro, has part of an investigation into a ledge fraud.

01:01: The authorities in Hawaii have begun partially reopening a town on the island of Maui, that's been devastated by wildfires.

01:09: Also, in this podcast, state authorities in California have approved the expansion of driverless taxi services in San Francisco.

01:17: I have not taken one.

01:18: I actually called one the other week.

01:21: what happened next will find out later in the Global News Podcast.

01:28: First, the prosecutor who filed criminal charges against President Biden's son Hunter

01:33: has been given the additional powers of a United States special counsel.

01:37: David Weiss will now investigate whether Hunter Biden engaged in improper business dealings.

01:42: Mr Weiss was appointed to the role as special counsel by the US Attorney General, Merrick Garland.

01:48: A special council, he will continue to have the authority and responsibility that he

01:53: has previously exercised to oversee the investigation and decide where, when, and whether to file charges.

02:01: The move comes as Republicans in Congress threaten an impeachment inquiry into allegations

02:05: that President Biden benefited from his son's business ventures in Ukraine and China.

02:11: More from our correspondent in Washington, Nomea Ikbal.

02:14: It's extraordinary really because basically it means that this year's long inquiring to

02:18: Hunter Biden has entered this really unpredictable stage.

02:22: So David Weiss was appointed by Donald Trump when he was president and when Biden, Joe Biden,

02:28: became president, he never removed Weiss, he allowed him to continue with the investigation.

02:33: And basically what it means now is that David Weiss can essentially expand the case and

02:38: I think there will be questions on why did he agree to this plea deal that Hunter Biden

02:42: entered, it fell apart last month and it was on pretty narrow charges, Hunter Biden

02:46: was accused of lying on a gun form, late filing of taxes. So does David Weiss want to

02:51: go for bigger charges against the president's only living son, we just don't know. And

02:56: I also think this is worth remembering that it's a stunning U-turn because originally

03:01: claimed that Weiss was going to be made a special prosecutor was rejected by him and it

03:05: was rejected by the Attorney General, Marit Garlan, who made the announcement. And so

03:09: We're in this sort of weird kind of limbo, I guess,

03:13: in which this plea deal is falling apart.

03:16: We don't know exactly where this investigation will go.

03:18: It gives the special prosecutor more powers to investigate more things.

03:22: And it could be, and I emphasize could,

03:25: that Hunter Biden may possibly face a criminal indictment and a trial.

03:28: That's the sort of, you know,

03:30: that's the way in which a special prosecutor has been elevated.

03:33: And what listeners around the world might be thinking is these allegations have been around

03:36: and discussed and prominent for years, long before Joe Biden became president.

03:42: Why is the process taking so long?

03:44: It's interesting, isn't it?

03:45: Because yes, Hunter Biden was brought up during the 2016 election campaign.

03:49: If you remember, one of the, I think it was the first presidential debate

03:52: between President Biden, rather than Kansas at Joe Biden and Donald Trump,

03:57: Hunter Biden came up and arguably you could say it was one of Joe Biden's most well-known

04:04: moments or liked moments by the electorate when he defended his son because there are

04:09: lots of Americans that can relate to someone who has a trouble son and Hunter Biden is

04:15: troubled. It's very well known. Hunter Biden himself has been very public about his battles

04:19: with alcohol and with drugs. But for the Republicans, the Republican party, they're right with

04:26: media here, nothing fives them up more than Hunter Biden. And you know what he's done

04:32: as a lobbyist, a consultant, and a lawyer.

04:34: There's evidence of, they say, of corruption.

04:36: There's dealings, especially with Ukraine and China, and they think there are implications for President Biden.

04:42: And to Biden denies all of this,

04:44: President Biden denies all of this.

04:46: And so this investigation is ongoing, and I guess,

04:50: you know, this is probably President Biden's way of saying, look, I'm not above the law,

04:53: I will allow these investigations to go on.

04:56: The Department of Justice is impartial

04:59: and doesn't want to get in the way of the work that they're doing.

05:02: Our correspondent, Nomea Igbar, with me from Washington.

05:05: Federal police agents in Brazil have searched the homes of four individuals linked to the former presidential air Bolsonaro.

05:12: This is part of an investigation into alleged embezzlement and money laundering.

05:17: Police seized items, including computers and documents belonging to three military offices and one of Mr. Bolsonaro's lawyers.

05:24: Here's Leonardo Rosha.

05:26: Mr. Bolsonaro appropriated at least $1 million worth of official gifts given to him by fellow leaders while he was president.

05:35: Among the items which went missing from the government inventory were expensive jewelry and sculptures.

05:41: Four individuals are said to have sold or attempted to sell the items for cash on his behalf.

05:46: The former president denies any wrongdoing.

05:49: He says he's the victim of political persecution by Brazil's left-wing government, which has been in power since January.

05:56: Officials in Hawaii are beginning to allow people to return to the town of Lahaina,

06:00: which has been almost entirely destroyed by wildfires.

06:04: Only those with proof of residency or a hotel reservation are being permitted to enter.

06:09: At least 55 people are known to have died on the island of Maui, with many more still missing.

06:14: The Governor of Hawaii, Josh Green, wore the number of dead could rise.

06:18: We know that many people are suffering.

06:20: The fatality numbers will climb somewhat today.

06:23: Everyone, love your neighbors, support them because this is devastating for Maui.

06:28: We probably have well over a thousand buildings that have been destroyed.

06:32: Many, many hundreds of families have been displaced.

06:35: We'll rebuild.

06:36: The President has already just in six hours authorized and approved our request for emergency support.

06:42: But it's going to be a long haul.

06:44: One insurance firm said damage to homes and businesses in Lahaina would make losses run into hundreds of millions of dollars.

06:51: Thomas and Timins lives just outside the town.

06:53: After the worst of the fire died down,

06:55: he cycled through the heart of Lahaina

06:58: in order to get to his family 30 kilometers away.

07:00: And this is what he saw.

07:02: Starting from one end to the other, it's absolutely gone.

07:05: So you go from a thriving tropical sort of paradise,

07:11: old quaint little town with little mom and pop shops, palm trees, swaying in the breeze, and everything looks perfect one day.

07:19: and literally the next day, it looks like a war zone,

07:23: it looks like somebody came in there and blew it up.

07:26: Everything's on fire and everything's ashes

07:28: and it's almost like you're in a dream.

07:30: And I had first hand accounts from people that did escape

07:33: and they said the friends they knew got out with no clothes.

07:36: The next thing they know their house is on fire,

07:38: they ran out their door and didn't have time to put shoes or clothes.

07:41: They were running for their lives.

07:43: Other people didn't have time to get their pets.

07:45: They barely got out with their family.

07:47: Others didn't get out and their families didn't make it.

07:51: Emerson Timbins, resident of Maui in Hawaii.

07:54: Ukraine has sacked the heads of military recruitment for every region in the country.

07:58: The mid-concerns about corruption.

08:00: President Vladimir Zelensky said

08:02: there were signs officials had enriched themselves illegally.

08:05: Mr. Zelensky said in some cases,

08:07: officials that helped to transport men out of Ukraine to avoid being drafted.

08:12: The head of the Supreme Court

08:13: and the head of military recruitment in Odessa have been arrested.

08:17: President Zelensky also recommended that the army select replacements who have battlefield

08:21: experience, saying those serving in Ukraine's military deserve more.

08:27: We are dismissing all regional military commissioners.

08:31: This system should be run by people who know exactly what war is.

08:36: Why cynicism and bribery at a time of war is high treason, instead soldiers who have

08:42: been through the front line, who cannot be in the trenches because they're in poor health,

08:47: lost their limbs, but have retained their dignity and have no cynicism, they can be entrusted with this recruitment system.

08:57: Tatiana Shepchuk is a lawyer working for the Anti-Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

09:01: Julian Marshall asked her for more details on what kind of corrupt practices have been going on.

09:07: These conscription offices were not properly reformed.

09:10: It was inheritance of the Soviet Union.

09:12: And the reform only started a few months before the full scale invasion.

09:17: So naturally, this conscription offices were a huge source of bureaucracy, untransparent procedures, and frankly speaking corruption.

09:27: That's just people were playing bribes,

09:30: not to be mobilized to the front lines.

09:32: So in the first months of the full scale invasion,

09:35: people just closed their eyes and the problem because there were other priorities.

09:40: But recently, the huge scandal erupted in Odessa region.

09:45: The journalist found that the head of this regional conscription office, he bought a mansion in Spain

09:52: and then a surrogis started checking him

09:55: and his relatives and they found the entire

09:59: wealth of the family is around 5 million euros of unexplained assets.

10:06: And of course, now when Ukrainians perceive corruption as a huge threat to national security,

10:13: people frankly say in that corruption is something like a treason for them during the wartime.

10:18: And especially in the conscription offices because it's like, it's naturally their question of

10:24: life and death for so many people. The general public was outraged on, was going on. Therefore,

10:29: other central government had to act and they started to investigate Odessa, regional

10:35: transcription offices and the center and others and disclosed a lot of problems.

10:42: But is the implication that all of these conscription centers were guilty of corruption and why is everyone being dismissed?

10:52: The perception is that most of them are corrupt and the idea Zelensky has and the general

10:57: of staff they have is to change the leadership to put their officers who had recent battlefield

11:05: experience. So in a way it's not just dismissing the all-croft people, but putting on the

11:12: place people from the front lines. The lawyer Tatiana Shepchuk from the Anti-Corruption

11:17: Action Center in Kiev. The number of migrants crossing the Mediterranean to get to Europe

11:22: has doubled in the past year according to official estimates.

11:27: 89,000 people made the crossing between North Africa and Italy in just seven months.

11:31: The European Union's border agency Frontex believes the number will remain high because

11:36: criminal gangs are now offering low prices for migrants to make these journeys.

11:40: Sophia Batista reports from Rome.

11:42: The number of people caught making irregular border crossings into the EU has not been

11:48: this high in the first half of the year since 2016. The main route migrants are taking is known

11:56: as the Central Mediterranean route across the Mediterranean Sea between North Africa and Italy.

12:02: Tunisia's eastern coast has overtaken neighbouring Libya as the region's main point of departure.

12:09: Frontex says a large number of people come from Egypt, Guinea and Ivory Coast,

12:15: fleeing war and persecution. The crossing is one of the most dangerous in the world for migrants.

12:22: So far this year more than 2,000 people have thought to have died in the Mediterranean.

12:28: And this week 41 people lost their lives after their boats sank near the Italian island of

12:35: Lampidusa. But Frontex predicts that these deaths won't stop others from making the journey. It says

12:42: there is fierce competition among criminal groups, which means that smugglers are offering

12:48: lower prices. The fear is that many more migrants will die, trying to reach Europe for a better

12:55: life." Now soon you might be able to hail a driverless taxi in California with just a few

13:00: taps of your mobile phone. This after the authorities approved the expansion of such a service

13:05: in San Francisco. Two operators, Waymo and Cruz have now been allowed to run fully commercial

13:11: so-called Robo Taxi Services in the city 24-7. San Francisco first introduced driverless cars

13:18: in 2014 with a mandatory human safety driver on board. Currently it's only a limited service,

13:25: but they hope to expand to other cities in the US. Stephen Kownsaw is a tech reporter from SF Gate,

13:31: a digital outlet in San Francisco. He told me what these driverless taxis look like.

13:36: They are very similar to regular cars, but they do have some hallmarks of 21st century technology for sure.

13:45: They have this sort of creepy quietness that electric cars often have.

13:49: And then they also have instruments on the top of the cars, sort of spinning cameras that act as radar systems that let them see the entire surroundings of the street and operate without anyone driving in the front seat.

14:03: It's a pretty startling to see them every time, even though living in San Francisco I've seen hundreds now.

14:09: But it's fine.

14:10: Well, so they're always using sat-nav technology to know where they're going, and then

14:14: they're using technology attached to the vehicles and make sure they don't hit anything.

14:18: That's right.

14:19: It's all very camera-focused.

14:21: I think there were things in the works in the past to try to make it very GPS-oriented,

14:27: but modern day autonomous vehicles really use these cameras and radars on the top because

14:31: They know that they're going to have to be, you know, lightning fast and avoiding pedestrian,

14:36: spice list, other vehicles, and navigating through a very dense and busy city in San Francisco.

14:41: And they must work otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to expand like this.

14:45: How do people feel about them though?

14:47: People are happy to get in these vehicles and get from a to be using them, feeling safe?

14:52: They do work and there has not been any fatalities from crashes, which is a big selling point for

14:58: the companies up to this point at the meeting yesterday where the Commission in California

15:05: OKed the expansion of Fared Vehicle Rides by these two companies though dozens and dozens

15:11: of San Francisco residents spoke out against the expansion calling on complaints made by the

15:16: Fire Department in San Francisco as well as the municipal transportation authorities about

15:21: cars getting in the way of first responders in the streets slowing down and stopping when police

15:26: cars are coming and just not really nillin quite how to act in emergency

15:30: specifications. So it's interesting. So there are there are still a list of

15:33: objections if you like of situations that they're not sophisticated enough to

15:38: respond properly to. Yeah that's right. You know there's also worries about

15:42: more traffic in San Francisco, you know taking away taxi drivers and Uber

15:47: drivers jobs. But I think some of the main complaints so far have been those

15:51: ones with first responders and emergency situations. And does it feel as

15:55: though, we're just going to see more and more of this, you know, expanding across towns

16:00: and cities in California and then across the rest of the US and then across the rest of the world.

16:04: These cars have massive corporate backing.

16:06: I mean, the two companies that just got okay yesterday are owned by General Motors, which

16:11: is one of the biggest American car manufacturers in Google.

16:15: So these companies have billions of dollars to pour into these two sort of startups and they're just going to keep growing.

16:22: Are they cheaper than a taxi?

16:23: Right now they're about the same price as an Uber and a lift, but these companies are losing

16:28: huge amounts of money in the development of these cars, so it's unclear how much they actually cost operating.

16:33: And presumably taxi drivers, taxi firms, are beyond the list of people objecting.

16:38: There were lots of taxi drivers at the meeting yesterday speaking out against the pros

16:43: of having a human driver in your car and speaking out against the driverless cars proliferating across the city.

16:50: Have you taken one yourself?

16:51: I have not taken one, I actually called one the other week and it was approaching me

16:56: and then it canceled and I thought, well there's no human driver to cancel this ride.

17:01: What's happened?

17:02: It canceled you.

17:03: What, we don't know why.

17:06: Maybe it was because I'm a journalist.

17:08: Steven Council who's a tech reporter in San Francisco.

17:13: Still to come.

17:17: Hurt is revered as the founder of hip hop.

17:21: The springboard, the big bang moment they say.

17:24: It's 50 years since hip hop was born at a back to school

17:27: party in the Bronx in New York.

17:36: Do you ever feel a bit overwhelmed when you check the news

17:39: on your phone first thing in the morning?

17:41: Whenever I open up my phone, they're just

17:43: endless warnings of more extreme weather to come.

17:46: I'm Hannah, I'm the presenter of a new podcast called What in the World from the BBC World Service.

17:51: We're going to be here trying to help you make sense of the world around you,

17:55: so you can feel a little bit better about what's happening in the world.

17:59: You can find What in the World wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

18:04: Welcome back to the Global News Podcast.

18:06: The UN says five of its security staff who were kidnapped in Yemen 18 months ago have been freed.

18:13: Yemen has been devastated by civil war since 2014, though much of the fighting has recently

18:18: subsided. The UN resident and humanitarian coordinator for Yemen, David Gressley, said

18:23: the release of the five staff was great news.

18:26: I'm pleased to report that they're in harm and good health and good spirits,

18:31: a chance to speak with them obviously on the way back. I'm very much impressed by not only

18:37: they're good spirits but the strength that they have exhibited under extraordinary circumstances.

18:44: Let's get more on this from Mike Thompson. It's clear from the comments of one of the five security

18:49: staff reportedly kidnapped by Al Qaeda that their experiences were deeply traumatic.

18:56: A calm, soft-yole an arm, a former army lieutenant colonel from Bangladesh has described his

19:02: experiences as horrifying. He said he didn't see the sky for months and lived with the fear

19:08: of death every day. The terror he added can't be expressed in words and is only seen in films.

19:16: Soon after arriving back in Ducca, he told reporters he never thought he'd come home.

19:23: Next to Niger and hundreds of supporters of the Kool Leaders in the country

19:27: held a demonstration on Friday near a French military base on the outskirts of the capital

19:32: Niammi.

19:33: Protesters shouted slogans against the former colonial power in Niger, as well as the regional block Echowos.

19:39: France has about 1,500 military personnel in the country who were helping to combat

19:44: G-Hadist insurgents.

19:46: On Thursday, Echowos ordered the activation of a standby force to go into Niger to restore constitutional order.

19:53: Africa, regional editor Richard Hamilton considers what could happen next.

19:58: Military intervention appears to be edging closer.

20:01: We still don't know what it might look like, or even when a regional force might go into

20:07: action. But the ECHOAS Commissioner for Political Affairs Abdel Fatal Musa said an element of uncertainty is necessary.

20:16: time from now the force could be deployed and for operational reasons we have to maintain

20:24: a strategic ambiguity when we are going to deploy the force. If the junta in Niger decides

20:34: between now and the deployment that they are ready to talk and they are ready to restore

20:40: constitutional order, then we will pause in preparation for deployment.

20:46: Nigeria has the most powerful voice within ECOWAS, and its president,

20:50: Bollatinubu, has argued in favor of a force going in. But Beatrice De Leon Cobo,

20:57: an analyst specializing in conflict in the Sahel, says a war in Niger could have

21:02: catastrophic consequences. I think, unfortunately, if there is

21:07: is a military intervention, it's going to run out of control.

21:10: No one wants to come to this point.

21:12: Nobody, not the neighbors, not the Junta, nor Nigeria, nobody wants a war in West Africa,

21:18: because we need to understand it's not all the countries of ECOA against New York Junta,

21:24: is that Burkina Faso and Mali will support the CNSP.

21:27: This could be very dangerous, and unfortunately I don't think this is something that any

21:31: of the military could really do at this moment, because they are already in war.

21:35: of these countries against zihadism. So I fear this is only going to create more losses

21:40: of civilians and especially that the violent extremism groups, zihadists and criminal

21:45: organizations are going to thrive in these chaos and that's going to be terrible for the future

21:50: of West Africa. The coup leaders maintain that they stepped in because of the deteriorating

21:56: security situation in the country, but under President Basum things were actually improving.

22:03: Now, Africa Confidential, a newsletter that provides analysis about the continent, suggests

22:09: that other motives may also have been at play. It says that when the previous president

22:15: Mahamadu Isafu was in power, nearly half the defence budget, more than $125 million, were

22:23: diverted into private hands. And just when officials were reopening their inquiries into

22:29: individuals linked to that scandal, President Bazoum was overthrown. The co-leader,

22:35: Abdurrahman Chiani, was the head of the Presidential Guard under Mahamadu Isafu, and it was

22:42: reported that the new president was about to sack him.

22:47: The Norwegian mountaineer, Christin Harilah, has denied accusations her team climbed over

22:52: an injured guide who later died during a bid to break a world record. The porter named

22:58: as Mohammed Hassan had fallen off a ledge on K2 in Pakistan, the world's second highest mountain. Here's Bethany Bell.

23:06: Two climbers, Philip Fleming from Germany and Wilhelm Steinald from Austria say they

23:11: have drone footage which appears to show people climbing over Mohammed Hassan on an extremely

23:17: narrow path on the mountain side. The pair who were filming a documentary were also on

23:22: the mountain that day, but had cancelled their ascent because of dangerous weather conditions.

23:28: As their camera display was small, they say they saw the details of what their drone captured only the next day.

23:35: But in a statement on Instagram, Kristen Harila said she and her team had tried everything to help Mr Hassan, who was part of a separate team in dangerous conditions.

23:46: She denied accusations that Mr Hassan had been left to die.

23:50: Miss Harilas said no one was to blame for his death, adding she decided to make the

23:54: statement to stop the spread of what she called misinformation and hatred.

24:00: Now football, the England men's captain Harry Kane is in Germany where he's expected

24:04: to finalise his transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Bayern Munich.

24:08: The two clubs that agreed a fear more than $109 million for Tottenham's record goal scorer.

24:14: From Munich, here's Joe Inwood.

24:15: He is Tottenham's talismanic striker and England's captain.

24:20: Harry Kane's been with Spurs for 19 years.

24:23: Now at the age of 30, that looks all but certain to change.

24:27: It's long been rumoured that Harry Kane wanted to leave North London and a club where his

24:32: prodigious talent had never been rewarded with silverware.

24:35: A Bayern Munich trophies are all but guaranteed.

24:39: Outside the Allianz Arena, fans were excited about the arrival of a new number 9.

24:44: He's an international player who knows the game and who's very skilled,

24:48: so he can only prove the team.

24:50: So looking forward to seeing him playing.

24:52: So I'm excited, but last year, Mani didn't go as we planned,

24:57: so we'll see, but I hope hopefully.

25:00: I think Jörg and Club is proud to take one of the best English soccer players.

25:05: That's big for Germany, I think, yeah.

25:08: That joy in Germany will mirror the despondency in North London,

25:12: where they have lost undoubtedly their best player just hours before the start of the new season.

25:17: The Spurs manager, Angeposterkoglu, knew a deal was imminent.

25:21: From that perspective, it always gives us some clarity,

25:24: unless something else was seen happens that we're moving forward and certainly with

25:28: training today and preparing for brain food, we're going with that Harry.

25:32: As for Bayern, they start their season with a cup clash against RB Leipzig.

25:37: It seems unlikely Harry Kane will arrive in time for that,

25:40: But with his talent, expect one of England's greatest ever strikers to quickly make his mark on the Bundesliga.

25:47: Joe Inwood in Germany.

25:49: Fifty years ago yesterday on the 11th of August 1973, the music genre Hip Hop was born

25:55: at a back-to-school party in an apartment building in the Bronx in New York.

26:00: The DJ Clive Campbell known as Cool Herk used two turntables to isolate and repeat instrumental

26:06: breaks in tracks by the likes of James Brown and Curtis Mayfield. He mixed between them to create

26:12: a continuous flow of music. It's grown to influence pretty much everything from politics to culture,

26:18: language to fashion and its created legends like Grandmaster Flash, Rondy MC and Missy Elliott.

26:24: The broadcaster and DJ Trevor Nelson delves into the origins of hip hop.

26:32: Cool Herk is revered as the founder of Hip Hop, the springboard, the big bang moment they say.

26:39: Basically, it's DJ who took a beat from a record and extended that beat by playing the

26:47: same beat on another turntable and extending it to make it simple.

26:56: If you imagine Queen another one bites the dust, the beginning of that.

27:02: Imagine that with no vocal.

27:05: And somebody extends the beginning again, so it just keeps going round like an instrumental.

27:10: Or if somebody said another one bites the dust and then he just spun it back and said

27:16: another one, but you know just extended.

27:19: Basically, a simple as that is, is the essence of DJ-turned-tableism and hip-hop.

27:27: Hip-hop is more than just a form of music.

27:30: It's easy to say it's rap or hip-hop, isn't it? It's not. It's a lifestyle.

27:34: It really was. It still is.

27:40: In poor parts of America, especially in a city in North like New York,

27:44: Hispanics and Blacks, what the lowest rung are they?

27:47: ladder. Do you know what I mean? Entertainment for them would have been hanging out on the street,

27:51: doing throwing little block parties. There's been anything to entertain themselves because they

27:55: didn't have the money to go to posh places. So that's, I think that was the driving force of hip-hop.

27:59: That's why hip-hop became this cultural phenomenon and it wasn't just about the music.

28:03: It was the dancing. It was the graffiti. There were several elements to hip-hop and that is what

28:08: hip-hop is. People get confused with what hip-hop is. That is hip-hop. The culture is turntableism,

28:13: graffiti and dancing. Well I first encountered hip hop as a young young man when I heard

28:19: rap is delight and I thought my gosh that is the most amazing fun song I've ever heard

28:24: in my life and I think a lot of people thought it was one hit wonder it was just one of those

28:27: novelty records. For me it became serious when Grandmaster Flash and a few as far I've released

28:36: a tune a few years later called the message.

28:49: It struck me, it hit me on the head like a mallet.

28:52: Lyrically it was, I've never forgotten the lyrics of that song.

28:56: You know, don't push me because I'm close to the edge.

28:58: I'm trying not to lose my head.

29:00: It's like a jungle sometimes.

29:01: It makes me wonder how I keep from going under.

29:04: It's like a jungle sometimes.

29:06: It makes me wonder how I keep from going under.

29:10: And it's about the struggle living in the hood.

29:12: Those two records sum up where hip hop was going to go.

29:16: Party, breakadocious, flashy, ghetto, fabulous, jewelry, escapism, aspiration, and politics, reality, truth, my struggle.

29:26: And those have been the two mainstays of hip hop since that day.

29:29: That day.

29:30: Trevor Nelson on the Origins of Hip Hop.

29:38: And that's all from us for now.

29:39: There will be a new edition of Global News Download later.

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29:53: This edition was mixed by Lissia Thurston.

29:55: The producer was Liam McShephery.

29:57: The editor is Karen Martin.

29:59: My name is Andrew Peach, thanks for listening and until next time, goodbye.