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Hawaii Governor Josh Green urges people who still have their homes to open them up.
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We are going to need to house thousands of people.
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How can the state help those fleeing the wildfires?
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I'm Steve Innskeep with Sarah McKemmon, and this is up first from NPR News.
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Should the Sankler family be able to use a bankruptcy settlement to shield themselves
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from liability for oxycontin. The Supreme Court will try to answer.
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It will be the decision that really sways whether these are even bankruptcy
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deals on the first place. Also, Poland sends more troops to its border with
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Belarus. Leaders in Warsaw are keeping an eye on mercenaries from Russia's
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Wagner Group. What are the mercenaries doing there? Stay with us. We've got the
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news you need to start your day.
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The wildfires on the island of Maui are changing many people's lives.
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Hawaii's governor says the fast-moving fires that have killed at least 55 people have also destroyed hundreds of homes.
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We've been reporting this week on the fires that swept through a historic town and far beyond.
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Residents have to go somewhere in both the short and longer term.
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Hawaii Public Radio's Bill Dorman is following the story high bill.
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Hi, Aloha, Sarah.
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So how are authorities helping the people who fled the fires on it?
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Short term, the focus is on sheltering those who need it
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and trying to find the missing and connecting families.
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Also, basic supplies from water to fuel are becoming an issue.
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It's a story as we've been saying all week about the west side of Maui Island.
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that's where people lost lives and where the most destruction is taken place.
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You know, the word devastation is when you keep hearing and there's a profound sadness
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with all of these losses, but especially the loss of life.
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The governor says the burning of all these homes makes housing a priority.
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We are going to need to house thousands of people.
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It's our intent to initially seek 2,000 rooms so that we can get housing for people.
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That will mean reaching out to all of our hotels and those in the community.
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The governor asked people across the state that if you have space in your home,
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if you have the capacity to take someone in from West Maui, please do.
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The governor also spoke about President Biden issuing a federal disaster declaration for Hawaii.
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A lot of that money is going to be targeted at housing. It's a critical need.
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So are some people having to leave the island entirely?
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Yes, those evacuations are continuing. Buses moving people from West Maui to the main
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airport in Kahalui, which is in the more central part of the island. And then the flights from there,
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whether those are tourists heading back to the continental United States or residents,
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many of whom are coming to hold a lulu here on the island of Oahu. As for residents who remain,
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Maui Mayor Richard Dixon talked about that today. I did want to also speak to the folks whose
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homes were not damaged. And I know the question on your mind is when can I get back to my home?
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Just as soon as we can try to provide the certainty that we have recovered those that have perished.
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And that's for goal right now.
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It's a grim goal, but as we move into Friday here in Hawaii, it's another painful day, and very difficult work is continuing.
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Really, Grimm, is it possible that some people are still alive and stuck in the burning areas?
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Yes.
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It's possible they could just be uncounted.
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You know, teams are working on this, but it's very difficult.
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Parts of West Maui are simply burned to the ground, especially in the town of LaHina.
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Maui Police Chief John Pelleteer said we have a scar on the face of Maui that's going last a long time.
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And while it might sound relatively simple, the question of how many people are missing is just inexcrustuating one.
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Honestly, we don't know.
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And here's the challenge.
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There's no power.
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There's no internet.
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There's no radio coverage.
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Our pack sets were having a hard time getting through on that.
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This challenges of communication a big reason.
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It's so difficult to nail down numbers, how many lives lost, how many buildings burned
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to the ground, and clearly that's not the priority.
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There are people to help needs to be met and the people who did not survive need to be treated with respect.
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Hmm.
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Bill Dorman with Hawaii Public Radio.
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Thanks so much.
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Thank you. [♪ INTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪
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That's the question at the center of a case involving
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oxy-contin and its maker Perdue Farma and members of the
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Sackler family who own that company.
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The Supreme Court on Thursday temporarily blocked the
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corporations, $6 billion bankruptcy agreement with its creditors.
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The deal would have shielded the sackeders from lawsuits related to the opioid crisis.
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Now the US Supreme Court agreed late yesterday to review that controversial agreement.
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NPR's Addiction Correspondent Brian Mann has been following the story and joins us hype, Ryan.
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Morning, Sarah.
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This bankruptcy deal has been fought over in the courts for years now.
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A lot of people fought it was settled.
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Why is the Supreme Court intervening now?
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Yeah, this bankruptcy deal was approved by a federal judge back in 2021, but it allowed
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members of the Sackler family, even though they're not bankrupt, to pay a big chunk of
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money in exchange for immunity from lawsuits.
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The Justice Department appealed, and so now the Supreme Court's agreed to look at one really specific legal question.
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Here's Lindsey Simon.
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She's a bankruptcy law expert at Emory University.
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It's not getting into the merits of whether the Sackler's deserve releases.
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strictly this idea of does the bankruptcy code give the court, the bankruptcy court, the power
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to confirm a plan like Purdue Farmers Plan that gives the saccharge releases?
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Justices are going to hear arguments on this in December and until then Sarah, none of the
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six billion dollars in this proposed settlement will be paid out to opioid victims or communities.
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Right, so no victims will get settlements until then. How are people harmed by these drugs
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responding to that? You know, the overwhelming majority of opioid victims, people who
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suffered addiction or lost loved ones to oxycontin overdoses. They've backed this deal. If it's upheld,
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they'll get $750 million in compensation, communities that sued Purdue Pharma also support it. They're
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in line to receive billions. So really, the Justice Department is the last hold out here appealing
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this. And in legal briefs, the DOJ argued that if the Sackler's get away with this, it will serve.
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And I'm quoting here, it will serve as a roadmap for wealthy corporations and individuals to misuse the bankruptcy system.
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And that's an important point.
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I mean, we do know that this Supreme Court, of course, sets precedent.
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What might this mean for other types of big bankruptcy cases?
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Well, it could be huge.
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What's happened over the last decade
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is all kinds of wealthy companies and individuals accused of wrongdoing have done this.
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They've used the power of bankruptcy court
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to block lawsuits, to limit their liability
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without ever having to actually file for bankruptcy.
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Critics, including the DOJ and many legal experts say that's an effort to skirt accountability.
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And Brian, other examples of this,
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have other big companies done this before?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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We've been talking about the Sacklers and Prudu Farma,
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but the Koch brothers who are also billionaires
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used a bankruptcy maneuver in his bestest case,
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Johnson and Johnson, one of the richest corporations in the US,
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drew a lot of attention when they used bankruptcy
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to try to block tens of thousands of lawsuits linked
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to claims that it's Tauk baby powder caused ovarian cancer.
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Lindsey Simon at Emory University says the Supreme Court is now going to settle once and
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for all whether bankruptcy courts were meant to wield this kind of power.
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It will be the decision that really sues whether these are even bankruptcy deals in the first place.
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So this case is going to bring the sacculars and the opioid crisis before the Supreme
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Court at a time when tens of thousands of people are still dying from overdoses every year,
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but the outcome could affect a whole lot of bankruptcy cases ranging from product safety
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lawsuits to environmental claims and even sexual assault cases.
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Lots at stake there.
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That's NPR's Brian Mann.
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Thanks much, Brian.
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Thank you, Sarah.
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Tensions are rising between Poland and a Russian ally on its border, Belarus.
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Leaders in Warsaw plan to send another 10,000 Polish troops to that border.
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Poland is a NATO ally and a vital friend of neighboring Ukraine.
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Supplies and weapons pass through Poland to support Ukraine's defense against Russia.
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Now Polish officials think Russia could be sending trouble their way.
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Fighters from Russia's Wagner Group are stationed in Belarus and Poland is worried they could destabilize NATO's eastern flank.
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NPR's Rob Schmitz joins us now from Berlin to talk about it, Hyrob.
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Morning, sir.
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This seems like a dangerous military escalation in a region very close, of course, to Russia's war in Ukraine.
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What's going on here?
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Yeah, this latest flare-up began last month when Wagner's soldiers were relocated to Belarus.
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Poland's government said Wagner might send its soldiers into Poland and neighboring Lithuania.
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Then, a little over a week ago, Poland accused Belarus of violating its airspace by sending military helicopters across the border.
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And now we've got this.
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Poland has been deploying troops to the border for some time, hasn't it?
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Yeah, that's right. This 250 mile border between Belarus and Poland has been tense for a couple of years.
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In 2021, the government of Belarus began handing out visas to migrants from mostly the Middle East and Africa.
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And soldiers and Belarus were assisting these migrants across the border into Poland,
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as well as into neighboring Latvia and Lithuania. All of these are EU member states.
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And that prompted Poland to mobilize troops and build a steel border fence.
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This was all part of an effort by Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko to destabilize Europe.
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It appears his efforts are ongoing.
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Lukashenko, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said this week that he has had to quote,
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�restrain vognor fighters who want to attack Poland.�
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So the big question, Rob, I mean, based on your reporting, what can you say about the
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likelihood of an escalation between Poland and Belarus?
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Well, more troops certainly makes it likely.
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I mean, when he announced this true build-up Polish defense minister, Marius Blacheck said Poland is preparing for different scenarios.
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Here's what he said.
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And Sarah, he's saying here that this true build-up is meant to scare away what he calls the aggressor or Belarus,
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and to ensure that Belarus does not attack Poland.
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It's worth noting here that the military of Belarus issued a warning to Poland this week telling Polish citizens
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that they should stop their government from starting a new war.
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So there's a lot of rhetoric on both sides of the border.
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Is there any truth to that claim?
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You know, well, this troop buildup comes two days after Poland's president kicked off the official election campaign for the ruling party,
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which is up for re-election in mid-October.
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And critics point out that while the threat from Belarus and Russia is very real,
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the ruling right-wing party of Poland is going into an election here,
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and it needs all the votes it can get.
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and many observers say this party is not above pumping up threats like this border escalation to accomplish that.
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So between the election season and Poland and efforts from Belarus and Russia to South
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chaos in Poland, what's real and what's bluster has sort of become difficult to parse out.
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But what is clear is that with more troops along this already fraud border, the potential for danger is going up.
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That's NPR's Rob Schmitz joining us from Berlin.
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Thank you Rob.
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Thanks.
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And that's up first for Friday, August 11th.
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