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00:04: From NPR and WBEC Chicago, this is, wait, wait, don't tell me.
00:09: The NPR news quiz.
00:11: Who needs a beach bod when you've got this bill bod?
00:17: I'm Bill Curtis and here's your host, Dutti, Studebaker, Theatre and the Fine Arts Building in downtown Chicago, Illinois.
00:24: Peter Segal.
00:25: Thank you, Bill.
00:26: Thanks, everybody.
00:27: Thank you so much.
00:28: Thank you so much.
00:30: So this year is the 25th anniversary of our show.
00:34: A fact so unbelievable, we need to take the occasional week off just to sit around and deal with it.
00:39: But it is true, and to prove it, here are some highlights from the first two and a half decades of our show.
00:46: We've been around so long we've been able to see entire careers happen in front of our eyes.
00:51: For example, back in 2010, we asked a performer from Chicago Second City to come by and try his hand, answering our questions.
01:00: It was Kegan Michael Kee.
01:03: Kegan, the last supper has been a favorite subject of artists for centuries, the most
01:07: famous version, of course, Leonardo da Vinci's.
01:09: There are hundreds more though.
01:10: Well, scientists looked at different versions of the scene painted over the centuries and
01:14: discovered that over the years something has changed in the picture.
01:21: The way that Jesus looks.
01:23: The food on the table.
01:24: Yes, exactly.
01:25: But how has it changed?
01:26: Oh, it's become less caloric.
01:32: I mean, like, as we get to the 19th century, oh, look, he's having more fibers.
01:35: It's okay for him.
01:37: But not that it will do him much good.
01:41: No, no, not that.
01:42: It's changed not in a particular good way.
01:44: You're onto something.
01:45: You're onto something.
01:46: The food as depicted has changed.
01:47: I'll give you a hint.
01:48: This study was done by the International Journal of Obesity.
01:54: super size. Super size my last supper.
01:57: Yeah, it's like...
01:59: It's like, it's...
02:00: Same Paul says, you want me to super size that?
02:02: Yeah, yeah.
02:03: There's more food.
02:04: Yes, there's just more food.
02:06: All the fortune sizes are larger.
02:09: Hard one. Hard one.
02:12: This is from a study published, as I said, in the International Journal of Obesity,
02:16: it looked at 52 renderings of the last supper,
02:19: and it found that in the last thousand years,
02:21: the apparent amount of food on the supper plates has increased by about 70 percent.
02:27: This obesity scientist say reflects the typical portion sizes of the period in which the paintings remain.
02:33: And that's why modern versions, one's painted in the last 20 or 30 years, modern versions
02:37: of the last supper show Jesus and His disciples enjoying a KFC boneless bucket in 36 ounce big gulps.
02:46: And keeping with this trend, many modern churches are moving to the double stuff communion
02:55: Keegan, three months ago, the U.S. patent and trademark office created a new trademark
03:00: office for entrepreneurs, specific entrepreneurs in a specific business, and then they promptly shut it down.
03:06: So what can you no longer trademark?
03:11: Marijuana, indeed.
03:12: For three months, growers and dealers of medical marijuana were allowed to seek trademarks
03:17: for names like Maui-Waui, Chronic, Purple Totenburg.
03:24: Oh, the Purple Totenburg.
03:25: That's the Purple Totenburg.
03:26: That's the Purple Totenburg.
03:27: Take that stuff.
03:28: All of a sudden, you're talking in different voices.
03:30: If you're just starting, just take the sky blue, to the merge.
03:34: Or the mauve.
03:35: Now, it's all over.
03:36: It turns out somebody in the patent office
03:37: realized that selling marijuana is still a federal crime.
03:42: So maybe the federal government shouldn't allow you to trademark your illegal product.
03:46: The patent office was just overrun with confused pot heads submitting patents not for their
03:50: pot but for ideas they'd had while using it.
03:55: For example, patent for method of just like thinking of a food and then you can taste the
04:01: food and all you had to do was think of the food.
04:05: And then there was this idea that came in and was like in a patent form was like, did anyone ever patent getting a patent?
04:11: Because then anytime somebody gets a patent you get money.
04:15: But then when I get the patent for patenting patents,
04:18: do I just have to give the money to myself, whoa?
04:27: Then eight years later, Keegan had gone on to become a superstar
04:31: comedian and actor first with a sketch show, Key and Peel,
04:34: and then many movies and TV shows.
04:36: So we asked him back just to brag that we knew him first.
04:41: became really fantastically well-known for key and appeal and the next thing I
04:45: know you were in the cover of I think time magazine
04:48: what that was crazy I was not expecting that that we got to be on the
04:52: the cover of time for the uh... some at the we wrote we also were on the cover of time for
04:57: the hundred most influential people in the world or something in 2014 it was crazy oh something like that you know
05:03: we might have been number forty six i don't know i'm not
05:10: I was on the cover of Time Out magazine.
05:12: I don't want to brag.
05:17: So, there are so many things about Key and Peel.
05:20: We could just talk about some of the amazing sketches.
05:22: We should cut right to the chase, which is your anger translator sketch,
05:26: in which Jordan Peele, your partner, played the president.
05:29: Where did you come up with this idea for the sketch?
05:30: And tell me exactly in your view, who were you playing? you playing
05:34: okay so so i'm playing a guy named lukegaard who is from the trot
05:38: and we remembered and i can't remember his name senator wilson who said you lie
05:42: yes it was a congressman named joe wilson from russian congressman joe wilson that's it
05:47: and we thought not to the president stuck between a rock and a heart place he can't express himself
05:52: or or he he'll be a catch health for it
05:54: so what if we can invent a surrogate
05:57: for the president who can get angry for him instead and that's how lukegaard was born
06:02: you actually did this sketch when you translate the president's anger into words with the actual president
06:09: right i i got to be with the president like ten minutes
06:13: and it comes in the room and he's like uh... that's my boy came well well and and of course and then i go
06:25: hope there's not a red dot on my forehead
06:30: there was a point though prior to you performing with the president where you
06:34: found out that the president was watching your sketches about you and the president
06:39: and liking them and how did that feel
06:41: well that was that was crazy because we were given the opportunity to meet him in twenty twelve
06:46: and and the thing that just melted me in Georgia's heart that he looked at both of us and he said
06:51: uh... got a player hard to be a brother on TV all of the other wow
06:57: at the end of the experience he went and had a clear stroke she asked one of his
07:01: age to hand him a bottle of water he unscrews the bottle of water takes a sip and
07:06: then he fangs as he had been poisoned by the water
07:12: he just drank his water and oh no I'm not kidding I'm kidding I'm joking
07:19: Well, Keegan Michael Key, we could talk to you all day, but we can't.
07:27: Because we really invited you here to play a game we're calling.
07:31: Bet you don't know these peels, friends.
07:34: So you were partnered very successfully with, of course, Jordan Peel,
07:37: so we thought we'd ask you about other peels.
07:40: Get two of these peel-oriented questions right.
07:42: You'll win our prize for one of our listeners, the voice of anyone from our show.
07:44: They choose on their voice mail.
07:46: who was Keegan Michael Key playing for.
07:48: William Fitzpatrick of Miami, Florida.
07:51: All right.
07:52: William Fitzpatrick of OK, a good Irishman.
07:54: All right, here we go.
07:55: Here's your first question.
07:57: The first peel is the peel 50.
07:59: That is the world's smallest car was made in the 1960s.
08:05: One of the most interesting features of this three-wheeled vehicle was what?
08:09: A, if you parked it on a sewer grate, it could fall through.
08:13: B, instead of a reverse gear, you got out of the car,
08:16: walked around, grabbed a handle, pulled it backwards, walked back in, got it, and drove off.
08:20: For a C, instead of looking through a windshield, the driver's head poked up through the roof.
08:24: And you looked around that way.
08:26: Ah, okay. I am going to go with C.
08:30: You're going to go with C, that instead of a windshield, you actually just poked your head up through the roof.
08:34: And I'm trying to read your syntax, Peter.
08:39: You need to believe that I should then say B.
08:46: I was really trying to be neutral, but apparently I gave it away because it is be in fact.
08:52: No, it's an amazing thing.
08:55: The Peele 50 is a tiny little car and it was so light that your users could get out, pick it up,
09:00: and pull it backwards when they had to go in reverse.
09:03: It's not very safe.
09:05: Your next Peele is Sir Robert Peele.
09:07: He was an early 19th century British politician who his legacy is still felt to this day.
09:14: He gave his name to something.
09:16: What was it?
09:17: A. He founded the British police force, which is why British police men are still called
09:22: B. He was the first person to import oranges into Britain, which is why they are said to have peals.
09:28: Or C. He was the first person to brush his hair to fall on either side of his face, framing it nicely. which is why we call that a haircut known as the bob uh... interesting
09:42: i'm going to go with a because that
09:44: that's not the most plausible to me
09:47: a was the one that the british police force were named bobby's yes and you're right
09:54: dot the p.m. is the father of british police that's what they're called bobby's
09:59: your last p.l. is john p.l. he was very famous in influential
10:03: British DJ died about five years ago.
10:07: He discovered singer Billy Bragg when what happened?
10:12: A, he bet somebody he could make anybody
10:14: into a successful pop act, including why this waiter right here.
10:19: B, he said on the air one day, he was quite hungry
10:22: and the unknown Bragg brought him a curry.
10:25: Or C, he heard Bragg singing in the shower
10:27: of the next department over and went and banged in the door to ask for a tape. uh...
10:34: you think it's a that he'd like somebody you can make anybody into a pop singer including this guy right here including this guy right here
10:40: i like that idea but it was in fact
10:43: it was be he was on the air john pelt a very popular radio program he was
10:47: broadcasting live is that i'm quite hungry didn't get dinner
10:49: billy bragg who was an unknown singer said uh-huh
10:52: well went out got a curry brought to the studio and a demo tape
10:56: gave him the career of the guy listen to the tape the next thing you know billy bragg was making records
10:59: That's what happened.
11:00: That's amazing.
11:02: It was pretty great.
11:04: That was pretty good.
11:05: That's pretty great.
11:06: Seizing the moment, Bill, how did Kegan Michael Kee do in our quiz?
11:09: Oh, you got two out of three right.
11:11: And as he knows from his experience here, that's a winner.
11:14: Yes, indeed.
11:16: We're very forgiving.
11:19: Kegan Michael Kee, thank you so much.
11:21: So great to talk to you again.
11:22: Congratulations, everything.
11:25: It's all kisses.
11:32: When we come back, more Hollywood royalty, including a woman named Queen King.
11:36: Well, in translation anyway, that's when we return with more.
11:40: Wait, wait, don't tell me?
11:41: From NPR.
11:45: From NPR, and it'll be easy Chicago.
11:51: This is Wait, wait, don't tell me the NPR news quiz.
11:55: I'm Bill Curtis and here is your host.
11:57: these, due to Baker Theatre and the Fine Arts building in downtown Chicago.
12:02: Peter Sadoff.
12:03: Thank you, Bill.
12:05: Thanks, everybody.
12:06: So, as we've been saying, we've been doing this show for 25 years, and in that time,
12:10: we've been able to interview some really impressive people, including some major Hollywood stars.
12:16: It's just the law of averages.
12:18: If you let 100 monkeys make a news quiz, they'll get some A-listers every once in a while.
12:26: So here is our 2019 interview with actor and director,
12:29: Regina King, who was starring as a superhero in the HBO series Watchmen.
12:34: Now, at one point, Mo Rocca, on our panel,
12:37: realized something interesting about Ms. King's name.
12:40: But can I just say, I just realized that Regina means queen.
12:44: So you're like super royal.
12:47: Queen King.
12:48: That was Namaste.
12:52: So your parents, I presume, Mr. and Mrs. King,
12:55: they decided that they would name their daughter Regina, who just emphasized that as well.
12:58: Yeah, they took it even a step further.
13:00: My sister who's four years younger than me,
13:02: they named her Rayna, which also means Queen.
13:05: That's right.
13:06: I understand.
13:06: There you go.
13:07: Was that, I mean, you've done it,
13:09: but still was it hard to live up to?
13:12: I'll be honest, I didn't really know what I was living up to until I started taking Spanish
13:18: and until I went like, oh, yeah.
13:22: There's some big stuff here.
13:23: Yeah, I know.
13:24: And now I want to talk a little bit about Watchmen because it's weird because this is it's based on a very famous comic book
13:29: That came out some time ago that's very very popular to comic book nerds and I I know as you know that comic book nerds are the most relaxed forgiving people
13:43: So have you have you had like any encounters yet? Have you been down to like comic con to deal with it yet?
13:48: I have and you know what what so far so good
13:53: We got a standing old at our screenings.
13:56: So no, you know?
13:58: Well, I'm...
13:59: And do you hope that, like, you can move on this
14:01: to be, like, in Marvel movies and just, like,
14:03: make the superhero thing work for you as a rest of your crew?
14:05: You know what?
14:06: Right now, I'm just hoping I just see one or two people this Halloween dress like me.
14:12: Oh, that would be awesome.
14:14: Well, that's the measure.
14:15: That's the measure.
14:15: That's the measure.
14:20: What does your character wear?
14:22: Oh my God, it is amazing.
14:27: Instead of a cape, I have like this skirt that flows like a cape.
14:32: So when I walk it just billows out,
14:35: and it's all leather, it's all black.
14:39: It has a hood, and I spray paint my mask on.
14:43: Oh yeah.
14:44: And you're better than that.
14:45: Tag your own face.
14:48: So we heard that you have a pretty interesting celebrity crush
14:51: crush that you've admitted to at least.
14:54: Yeah, is it Sam Elliott?
14:55: It is Sam Elliott.
14:59: How did you develop a crush on Sam Elliott?
15:02: Any of the ladies out there, did you see Roadhouse?
15:05: So some of the men, if you need them, just something
15:08: about when he has that rubber band in his mouth
15:11: and he's pulling his hair back, and he's about to whoops them.
15:15: As it was just sexy, this little girl.
15:18: You have a, you traveling pretty good.
15:20: You're on the AC in here.
15:21: I know.
15:23: You travel in pretty a-list circles.
15:26: Have you run into Mr. Alley at it any time?
15:28: Oh my God, and I had to let him know.
15:30: Did you really?
15:31: Was that like, did you just blur it out?
15:33: It was like, hi, Sam Alley and I'm a JD King.
15:34: I've had a question for you forever.
15:36: It's something like that.
15:38: Who do you think is the hottest person on NPR?
15:44: Carry Groves.
15:48: No games like that.
15:50: Well, Regina King, it is an absolute pleasure to talk to you.
15:54: We've invited you here to play a game that we're calling.
15:57: I'm not a watchman.
15:58: I'm a watchman.
16:01: So you're starring in Watchmen.
16:02: So we thought we'd ask you about watchmen,
16:05: specifically the people who collect luxury watches.
16:10: So we wrote a wonderful piece by Gary Steingart
16:12: in the New Yorker about his obsession with watches.
16:15: And we were going to ask you three questions
16:17: about this particular obsession, get to right, you win our prize.
16:21: You ready to play?
16:22: All right.
16:23: Choki, who is Regina King playing for?
16:26: Benjamin Bruening of Davis, California.
16:28: All right, here we go.
16:29: First question, which are these is a real term
16:32: for something that collectors look for in a desirable watch?
16:36: Is it A, emotional complications?
16:40: B, nimble felanges?
16:42: Or C, thick beefy lugs?
16:51: Or if you like, which of these things would you want to see on a Sam Ellie?
16:54: I was going to say.
16:56: The Biffy Lugs.
17:00: You're going to go for that? That's right. Very good.
17:02: Biffy Lugs.
17:03: I love the Biffy Lugs.
17:06: Lugs are the part of the watch that the wrist band attaches to, and you want thick Biffy
17:13: That's what.
17:14: All right.
17:15: Someone wants to be if you want to.
17:16: Somebody wants to be if you want to.
17:17: Next question.
17:19: You've probably seen those watches with the really
17:21: enormous faces, like the size of T-Sauces
17:23: that were popular just a few years ago.
17:25: What do watch aficionados call those watches?
17:28: A. L'Orealage de Enjeu L'Éville, or French for Hubcap Watch.
17:34: B. Penis Extenders.
17:37: O. Or C. U.W.O.'s for unidentified risked objects.
17:45: The world penis is fun, so I'm gonna go with penis.
17:50: You're right.
17:51: That's what they call him.
17:57: According to Mr. Steingart, the true watch of Fishingotto does not care for those overly large watches
18:03: and believes they are an expression of male insecurity.
18:06: I don't see the relationship between the two.
18:09: Like, you look at some big watch and that tells you what?
18:13: Well, I think it might tell you that they're making up for something else.
18:16: I think that's the idea.
18:18: For a short second hand.
18:19: That can't be true.
18:27: All right, so you're doing really well here, Virginia.
18:29: One more luxury watches, unlike, you know, common watches are made by hand and by craftsmen.
18:33: At one factory in Germany, the watchmakers work under stringent rules, including which of these?
18:38: of these. A, they're not allowed to drink ever. B, they cannot eat tick-tax because they
18:44: could be confused with tick-tocks. Or C, they're not allowed to eat any roughage because
18:49: it's believed in test and will gas harms the mechanism.
18:53: Oh, that last one's out of fun.
19:00: But I'm going to go with A.
19:05: or right again, the night of the break.
19:07: It is believed by these German watchmakers
19:12: that any drinking at all makes the hands shake
19:14: and you don't want that in your luxury watchmaker.
19:16: Chilky, how did Regina King do in our show?
19:18: Regina King is a superhero with an Oscar.
19:22: She got all three right.
19:23: That's true.
19:26: Regina King is starring in Watch Minute Premier's and HBO October 20th.
19:32: It's coming up soon, TikTok.
19:33: Regina King, thank you so much for joining us.
19:36: I'm way away from telling you.
19:38: Such a pleasure to talk to you.
19:39: Congratulations on everything.
19:41: We look forward to more things later.
19:44: Thank you.
19:46: Thank you.
19:47: Thank you.
19:50: Another advantage of being around a long time
19:53: is you get to interview parents and then someday their children.
19:56: Actor Tom Hanks was one of the first big stars
19:58: we ever interviewed on this show back in 2005.
20:01: and then six years later we interviewed his son Colin Hanks.
20:05: Peter asked him about his latest big role on a series
20:08: that many other stars had also taken part in.
20:11: So I'm gonna write about that.
20:13: Do you like actors hanging out and hollering?
20:15: Oh, I hope I get the serial killer role in this season's Dexter.
20:18: Oh, well, yes, of course.
20:20: But it's always sort of like you make believe like,
20:23: oh, yeah, I'm gonna, I could be on that show.
20:27: and really the reality is it's so difficult to get on
20:31: any show for that matter must less one as good as as dexter
20:36: uh... so you know when the agent said
20:38: what about dexter would you like to be on dexter said yes sure
20:41: thinking their net never going to happen
20:44: are you gonna be i know in general the seasons tend to revolve around a single
20:49: primary serial killer who's sort of dexter's nemesis is that you this time
20:52: around uh... it is uh... myself along with uh...
20:57: Edward james all most of that's very good yeah so it's the two of us that uh...
21:01: that dexter has to to find this is the seventh season of dexter the six
21:05: it is the six and it is anybody ever on this tv show dexter which i have seen
21:09: enjoyed every look around and go wait a minute where are all these serial colors coming from this is crazy
21:14: well this is not the first time television has uh... made you know sort of a strange and unbelievable co-incidents
21:21: i mean every time peri mason took a job
21:24: uh... it wasn't originally to defend a murder case it was always the person came
21:28: to him for something entirely different and then the very next morning they were accused of murder
21:34: well just think of a cabit cove
21:36: or you know right yeah yeah people are getting killed left and right in this
21:39: time a little down right and then they had her character go to new york
21:43: as if this should be daunting to someone who came from a small town where everyone's dead
21:50: and it's also not too different from a lot of the sort of medical programs you have
21:54: where invariably someone will come in complaining of
21:58: oh my stomach hurts or i have some chest pain and they go oh it's this
22:02: and then all of a sudden some doctor realizes but waited could be this
22:06: right low-end the whole that's every episode
22:09: does it earn a t-v show now we understand uh... your father's also an actor yet uh...
22:15: was on the love book by the way was was a great that reference
22:20: that how is he dealt with your fame and success he's taking it poorly really
22:26: he's feeling uh... he's feeling a little bit older
22:30: yeah um... as he always said you may be younger
22:34: and taller and better looking but i way more than you
22:39: i hate to ask this because i like to think well the guy but your father
22:42: Tom Aink, does he ever try to sponge off your success?
22:45: Oh, every day.
22:49: It's somewhat more seriously.
22:50: Was it daunting to want to go into acting yourself?
22:55: Well, keep in mind, I'm going to be 34 years old in just a few weeks.
23:02: So when I was younger, it was, you know, my dad dressed up in drag on bosom buddies,
23:09: bodies and that was what i was having to deal with at the time
23:13: hey listen we know you're big on twitter we followed you on twitter
23:16: yet and uh... it's your twitter bio describes you as quote that guy
23:20: from that one thing you think is way underrated yet unquote what is that thing
23:26: uh... that thing apparently is everything on my resume there you are
23:30: uh... no in that there's always someone who just says you know he man
23:35: that thing that uh... the blank movie blank that's way underrated.
23:40: It's a great compliment because they mean like I think it's good, but you should know a lot of people.
23:45: I mean a lot of people.
23:46: That thing that you did, that thing that you did is not suck nearly as much as everybody else says it does.
23:52: This is what the things they've said.
23:53: Oh my god.
23:54: It's terrible.
23:55: So I just sort of been taking that and embracing and running with it.
23:58: From your Twitter feed, we would say that you are somewhat obsessed with music.
24:02: Is this fair?
24:03: This is a fair assumption, yes.
24:05: And are you an a band or are you a musician yourself?
24:07: i was in two very horrible bands
24:10: uh... they were underrated they were underrated they're better
24:13: they're better than everybody said college uh... i like that i like that uh... but
24:17: yeah i would i played uh... i played bass guitar in in high school and in
24:21: college and then i actually uh... i fractured my thumb
24:25: so my bass career went went by by what was the name of the band sir uh... one of the okay
24:33: In combination, this is going to sound very strange.
24:35: That's why we asked.
24:38: First one was called Pontius Pilate.
24:43: I didn't know why.
24:45: I just liked the name.
24:46: I since found out who Pontius Pilate was.
24:49: Wait a minute.
24:50: You didn't know?
24:51: I had no idea.
24:53: They did that great song I want to wash your hands.
24:58: Very good.
24:58: I love that.
24:59: The other one was called the Underlords.
25:04: The Underlords?
25:05: Yeah, they were both, well, let's just say they were both noble attempts.
25:11: Did you start those bands or how did you get involved in them?
25:14: I did not start those bands.
25:15: I joined those bands.
25:16: I'm the quiet bass player.
25:18: And did you say what's the name of the band?
25:21: Uh, yeah, I did.
25:21: And they said the Underlords.
25:24: Hey, listen, I just wanted to hang out with someone.
25:28: Well, Colin Hanks, we have invited you here to play a game.
25:31: We're calling...
25:32: Till death that we part.
25:34: At least until I get a better offer.
25:37: So, Kim Kardashian is getting a lot of grief for filing for divorce after only 72 days of marriage, as we've discussed.
25:43: But compared to some other celebrity weddings,
25:45: She and her husband, what's his name, practically grew all together.
25:49: We're gonna ask you three questions about other short-lived celebrity marriages.
25:53: Get to right, you'll win our prize for one of our listeners. who is Colin Hanks playing for.
25:57: Colin is playing for Chris Spinn Brem of the Calb, Illinois.
26:01: All right.
26:01: All right.
26:03: Chris Spinn Brem.
26:08: Here's your first question, Colin.
26:10: Guns and roses, singer Axel Rose,
26:12: may not appear to be the most romantic man.
26:15: That's because he's really not.
26:18: His brief marriage to his wife, Aaron Everley,
26:20: began when he popped the question, how?
26:22: A, at 4 in the morning, he said to her, marry me or I'll kill myself.
26:27: B, he let her look under slash his hair where he had hidden a ring.
26:32: Or C, he said, you and the jungle baby, the jungle of wedded bliss.
26:37: I'm going to go with A.
26:39: You're gonna go with A at 4 in the morning,
26:40: he said, marry me or I'll kill myself?
26:43: Yes, that's what he did.
26:45: That was so romantic.
26:46: It is.
26:47: That's what I did.
26:48: That's what I did.
26:49: Popping the question and popping the cry for help.
26:53: She said yes, they were divorced just a few weeks later.
26:56: Oh, wow, that's romantic.
26:57: Isn't it?
26:58: Isn't that a shock?
27:00: Next question, the late actor Dennis Hopper was married
27:03: to singer Michelle Phillips from Mama's in the Poppies for eight whole days in 1971.
27:09: What did Mr. Hopper have to say about his brief marriage
27:12: much later, did he say, A, quote, next time I get married,
27:15: I'm going to spend a little time with the lady first.
27:19: B, quote, seven of those days were pretty good,
27:22: or C, quote, no big deal, I return a lot of the clothes I buy, too.
27:28: Oh, which, uh, I'm gonna go with B just because that made me laugh.
27:34: Seven of those days were pretty good?
27:36: That's right, that's what he said.
27:40: Talked to the Men of York Times in 2005, he said,
27:43: seven of those days were pretty good.
27:44: The eighth day was the bad one.
27:47: All right, last question.
27:49: One of the more famous of the celebrity marriages
27:51: in the 1960s was the brief joining in wedded bliss
27:54: of Ernest Borgnein and Broadway star Ethel Merman
27:58: in Merman's autobiography, the chapter My Marriage to Ernest Borgnein consisted of what?
28:05: A, the words, wait a minute.
28:08: Did I marry Ernest Borgnein?
28:11: Be a full-color reproduction of Edgar Munche's painting, the scream or see a blank page uh... well
28:24: i don't know why don't we go for b
28:26: you go for b a reproduction of months painting the screen
28:29: do you share why not actually it was a blank page now that i got anything
28:35: what would earn a board nine of done
28:38: marie f.l. merman for thirty two days he explained that he ended their marriage after that brief period because of Ethel Merman's incessant complaining
28:45: that more people were recognizing him in the street than her.
28:50: It's made it very mad.
28:51: Carl, how did Colin Hanks do in our quiz?
28:53: Colin, you had two correct answers, so you win for Crispin Brem.
28:57: Yeah, that's amazing.
28:58: Well done.
29:00: Colin Hanks is starring in Dexter on Showtime this season, Colin Hanks.
29:04: Thank you so much for being with us.
29:05: Bye, Colin.
29:06: Bye, everybody.
29:07: Thank you so very much.
29:08: Bye, Colin.
29:10: Thank you.
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31:01: people from so many different walks of life. For example, one of our favorite things to do
31:06: has been to have musicians on the show and then not let them play any music.
31:13: It's a great way to throw them off their talking points or singing points.
31:18: In 2010, we were joined by the great Bobby McFerrin composer, conductor and multiple
31:23: Grammy-winning musician who managed to get some singing in anyway.
31:27: I love to sing especially in restaurants.
31:32: What sort of things do you want to do?
31:33: Well, you know, when you get something on the menu that you really, really want, you know, you've got a taste for something.
31:40: There's always a very celebratory kind of moment when there's something on the menu that you've been dying to.
31:45: It's okay.
31:46: So here we are in a restaurant.
31:47: In a restaurant, you're looking at, you see something and the waiter comes over and says,
31:49: you might take your order and they say, oh, I'd like, oh, I'd love with this food.
31:57: That ever happened at Danny?
31:59: Just a single note out.
32:00: Because it's such a joyful thing.
32:03: I have a feeling that this audience right now
32:05: doesn't want me to say another word, actually.
32:08: I think they just want you to go.
32:11: Do you see what I mean?
32:13: Yeah, your panelists are with them, too.
32:15: Yeah, I'm so happy.
32:16: I'm so happy.
32:17: I'm so happy.
32:18: I'm so happy.
32:18: I'm so happy.
32:20: I'm so happy.
32:21: I'm so happy.
32:23: I'm so happy.
32:24: Why am I?
32:25: You're stump.
32:26: I'm dumb, man, because I basically am just going to talk until you start doing something again,
32:30: and then I'm going to lay down.
32:32: If I can just get you to go, then my job here is done.
32:35: So you've done so many different things in music.
32:38: Tell us how it all got started.
32:40: Did you like form a band?
32:41: Did you sing with your friends?
32:42: I've been working musician since I was about 14.
32:44: You were singing, you were playing?
32:45: I wasn't singing at the time.
32:46: I was playing piano.
32:47: I was a pianist until I was about 27.
32:50: I was convinced I was a pianist, but I always
32:52: had a nagging suspicion in the back of my head that I wasn't.
32:55: And it is.
32:56: I have that same thought.
32:59: I was living in Salt Lake City at the time
33:01: because I was working at the University of Utah Dance
33:03: Department as one of their accompanists.
33:05: And I was walking home for lunch period.
33:07: It was about noon.
33:07: It was July 11, 1977.
33:09: See, I really remember those.
33:10: You do?
33:10: By the time I got to my house, I recognized that I was a singer.
33:14: I called up the Hilton Hotel.
33:16: And I got on an audition for the very next day.
33:19: I knew five songs.
33:20: I sang, you are the sunshine of my life.
33:23: I sang that.
33:24: I sang a tune by a group called Blind Faith.
33:27: Come down up your throne and leave your balance.
33:32: I sang that and three other pieces and they hired me.
33:35: Now those, I only knew five songs.
33:39: He hired me.
33:40: I had a month before my gig started.
33:43: So I learned a song a day.
33:44: I had about 35 songs when I started.
33:46: And that's how it all began.
33:48: Right, very cool.
33:50: You wrote that?
33:52: I wrote that.
33:53: That's great.
33:55: That's really good.
33:57: I like that.
33:57: You just open up your mouth.
33:59: You open up your mouth and you go.
34:01: That's it.
34:01: Yeah, I open up my mouth other people go.
34:04: But that's different talents, baby.
34:06: Different talents.
34:07: Very, very good.
34:09: I know.
34:10: Oh, I know.
34:11: Well, we are utterly delighted to have you with us.
34:12: In Bobby McFarron, we have asked you here today
34:15: to play a game we are calling...
34:17: Doorhead. worry.
34:19: Okay, it's all right.
34:28: So you sang famously, don't worry, be happy and a certain percentage of the population
34:31: said to help with that and went back to being miserable.
34:35: We're going to ask you three questions about being unhappy.
34:38: Get to right, you'll win our prize.
34:39: One of our listeners, Carl's voice on their voice mail or answering machine, whatever they got.
34:44: Carl, who is musician Bobby McFarron playing for?
34:46: Bobby is playing for Annie Earling of Chevy Chase Maryland.
34:49: Annie Earling for energy.
34:52: Eh, eh, eh, eh.
34:56: I'm guessing the answer is yes, but are you ready to play?
34:58: You seem to be the go.
35:00: Here's the first question.
35:01: A recent survey of tweets tweeted shows
35:04: that people are most unhappy when, a, the moment they arrive
35:07: at work, b, Thursday evenings, c, right after eating something they shouldn't have eaten.
35:14: Thursday evenings, I guess.
35:15: You're right Thursday evening.
35:19: But isn't that when Seinfeld is on?
35:21: Apparently not anymore.
35:24: The survey went over all these tweets, millions of them, and looked for certain unhappy keywords,
35:28: and then looked at the timestamp in the location.
35:31: And it turns out if you want to be unhappy,
35:32: the place to be, and the time to be there,
35:34: New York City Thursday night.
35:37: How about that?
35:38: How about that?
35:39: You answered that so easily.
35:40: Are you yourself sad on Thursday evening?
35:41: I'm psychic.
35:42: Oh, okay.
35:46: All right, next question you're doing very well.
35:48: If you're psychic, this will be not your problem.
35:51: If you're dealing with a really unhappy person according to one scientific study,
35:56: what's something you could do to an unhappy person to make them even more unhappy if you were so inclined?
36:05: Hey, say the words, get over it.
36:08: Be show them a happy picture or see sing sing you think singing would make an unhappy
36:16: person even unhappier yeah it was actually show them a happy picture oh sorry oh
36:23: according can I redo the test you know we have another chance here okay but I
36:30: had to do two out of three you do that's on it and what does this person get
36:33: this person gets Carl's voice in their home answer machine okay and the
36:36: wasn't. You want to take it up with Bobby Carl? I mean, all right, this is exciting because
36:50: if you get this correct, we win. Here we go. Last one. Here we go. Let's say you're dealing
36:53: with somebody, but you don't know if they're a happier, unhappy person. According to yet
36:58: another scientific studies, what might be a good clue that they're a generally unhappy
37:03: A, they wear ties, B, they really like TV or C, they routinely send food back in restaurants.
37:12: Okay, well I think it's TV actually because they probably, you know, like on the couch,
37:17: hanging out, they don't want to get up and do anything because that's probably what it is.
37:20: And it is that, congratulations, that's right, you understand?
37:25: Well done.
37:28: Thank you.
37:29: The University of Maryland study found that unhappy people watch more TV.
37:34: That may not be surprising, but it might be that they really like it.
37:38: So if you want to know who was watching Cougar Town, it's all the moaps.
37:42: Carl, how did Bobby do on our show?
37:44: Well, enough to win for Andy Earling of Chevr Chase,
37:47: Maryland. He had two correct answers.
37:49: Well done. Andy Earling. Excellent. Excellent.
37:56: But before I let you go, I'm gonna ask anything you want to sing in or four or with this audience?
38:04: Four or with.
38:07: Tumana tum tumana tum
38:12: Tumana tum tum
38:16: It's been great to be here tonight
38:20: Tum tum tum
38:22: Great to be here tonight
38:27: Bobbie McFarring, ladies and gentlemen.
38:46: Finally, we talk to one of my very favorite authors, Susan Orley, the only acclaimed writer
38:52: of literary nonfiction to be portrayed on screen by a multiple Oscar winner opposite a completely insane Nicholas Cage.
39:00: So you wrote this book, The Orchard Thief, that got made into a movie called Adaptation,
39:05: which weirdly enough is not so much about the story of your book, although it includes
39:09: it, it is about the writer trying to adapt your book, The Orchard Thief, and you are
39:14: in it, or rather you are portrayed in it by Merrill Streep.
39:19: Before I get any further, how was that for you?
39:22: It's got to be cool.
39:23: Well, pretty kooky as you can imagine.
39:26: I can imagine.
39:27: I often fantasize about being played by Marl Street, but it seems unlikely.
39:31: And it happened to you.
39:32: What did you give up?
39:33: All right, thank you.
39:34: It was, I would say, probably as close to an out-of-body experience as anyone could ever imagine.
39:43: I have a question.
39:44: When Marl Street plays you in a movie,
39:46: does she come over to your house and follow you around the kitchen to try to act like you?
39:51: Well, this is terribly embarrassing,
39:52: but I will tell you what happened.
39:54: I was very excited when I heard
39:56: that Merrill Streep was going to play me.
39:58: So I would come into my office at the New Yorker
40:01: and I would just very casually say to my colleagues, oh, could you guys tidy up?
40:07: I think Merrill Streep might be coming by today.
40:10: Just to study me.
40:13: And then she wouldn't come by and another week would roll around.
40:16: And I'd again say to people, could you
40:18: kind of clean up in here guys?
40:20: I mean, I think Merrill Streep's probably going to come.
40:24: And study me.
40:26: Well, at one point I said to the producer,
40:28: so look, I mean, is Merle Street gonna come?
40:31: And they said, oh, we already shot her scene.
40:36: She really just wanted to create the character
40:39: kind of on her own and didn't want to study you.
40:44: And then, so I was eating a lot of humble pie at the office.
40:49: So let's talk about Rinton Tintin a little.
40:50: I want to say, there's so much in that book I did not know.
40:54: for example that uh... rinton ten was not a character but a real dog
40:58: and that is exactly what drew me into the story because having grown up
41:04: at the very tail end of rinton ten having been a tv star
41:08: and knowing him just as a character television it completely astonished me to
41:15: learn that he was a real dog born in nineteen eighteen
41:20: and a dog who had had a huge career and a sort of global acclaim in the nineteen twenties he was probably the top box office earner
41:31: for many years he was known all over the world
41:35: i mean in the twenty is when rinton didn't was in a movie
41:39: he was the name above the title he was the big deal really
41:43: such a big star that when he died in nineteen thirty two
41:47: the news interrupted broadcasting all over the country
41:52: i love the fact that you write that that the gossip magazines used to write about
41:56: him like a movie star that they say he lived in a hotel sweet with his wife
42:00: net right right actually my favorite report was
42:03: where they presumably interviewed his wife man that
42:07: who said he was putting aside her career
42:10: for the time being because of the demands of motherhood
42:14: hey i understand that you're quite an animal person at home you have this
42:16: you wrote about this raising chickens in the new york you have this sort of farm
42:19: in in upstate yeah we have all we have a lot of critters we have
42:23: chickens and turkey's and ducks and cap do you have dogs i've a dog
42:28: since re researching uh... rinton ten for ten years are you terribly disappointed in your dog
42:34: and we have a lot of talks where i kind of say look
42:38: that rinton ten supported his master for years
42:42: right have you done for me lately
42:45: Can I say, by the way, and I say this to you,
42:47: someone has written a book about a famous performing dog
42:50: that I did not get a dog until I was a freshman
42:52: in high school, 14 years old, say.
42:54: And by that time, I was so ruined by fictional dogs,
42:58: ranging from all the movie dogs, the TV dogs, to Snoopy.
43:02: And then you get a real finally, after a lifetime,
43:04: a kid's lifetime, of wanting one, you get a dog, and it's just a dog.
43:09: It doesn't talk to you.
43:11: It doesn't run errands for you, bring you yours.
43:14: It doesn't even bring many slippers.
43:15: It's kind of panted and ran around and occasionally would poop outside.
43:18: That was it.
43:19: Right, isn't that what marriage is like too?
43:23: Were you poop outside?
43:28: Well, Susan Arlene, we have invited you here to play a game.
43:31: We're calling Rintin 10.
43:34: Does that's the begin-gin-getting?
43:38: So we were talking about Rintin 10
43:39: and somebody said that sounds like the Tin-Tin comics
43:41: and that sounded like Tonton's from Star Wars
43:44: and we sort of got carried away.
43:46: So we're gonna ask you three questions
43:49: based on three things that sound like the title of your book.
43:53: Oh good.
43:55: I'm probably guaranteed to flunk all of these.
43:58: That's the plan.
43:59: But if you answer two out of these three questions correctly,
44:03: you'll win a prize for one of our listeners,
44:04: Carl who's author Susan Orlean playing for?
44:06: Susan is playing for David Gaye's of Oak Park Illinois.
44:10: Ready to play?
44:11: I am.
44:12: All right.
44:13: Tin Tin is, of course, a famous Belgian comic book hero
44:17: and he's the basis for the new Steven Spielberg movie.
44:19: His BFF, Captain Hattick, is known for his elaborate curses.
44:22: Which of these is a genuine Captain Hattick Exploative?
44:26: A, blue blistering bell bottom baller dash.
44:29: B, filibustering French fried frankincense.
44:33: Or C, hairy hedgehogs on a stick.
44:40: I'll say number one.
44:42: Blue blistering bell bottom ball, DASH?
44:44: You're right.
44:47: That's good.
44:48: So that was Tim Tain.
44:49: Next up, Tonton.
44:51: As all Star Wars fans know, there are the beasts
44:54: and the ice-planted, hot, famous for that bit.
44:56: We're hands solo cuts one open to make a nice warm hot pocket for the injured Luke Skywalker.
45:01: What is the latest Tonton themed Star Wars merchandise?
45:04: A, the Craftsman Star Wars Edition Chainsaw, which
45:07: is, quote, tough enough to open a tonton.
45:10: Be a sleeping bag that looks like a tonton.
45:12: You unzip and get to keep yourself warm by climbing in.
45:14: Or see a loaf shaped to look like a tonton
45:17: to be enjoyed on a Star Wars nerd holiday called Life Day.
45:22: Ooh, I'm going for beat.
45:23: You're going to for beat the sleeping bag?
45:25: You're right.
45:26: Oh my god.
45:27: This is the tonton sleeping bag.
45:28: I can't believe it.
45:29: Which is great is that this, the tonton shaped sleeping bag,
45:32: which you could cut open and then crawl inside yourself,
45:35: was actually an April Fool's joke on a website called Thinka Geek,
45:38: but the response that was so overwhelming that they just actually started manufacturing them.
45:43: All right, we've had 1010, ta-tang, how about ta-tang?
45:46: The GPS system that uses celebrity voices to give directions, which of these
45:49: is a real celebrity instruction you can get on your ta-tang GPS is at A, Snoop Dogg,
45:55: saying, Jesus Frieza puts your quiza in the ignition,
45:59: B, Kim Kardashian saying, if you turn left at the next light,
46:02: I'll marry you.
46:04: Or see, Kormack McCarthy saying, the road is long, hungry, cold.
46:08: Find food or die.
46:09: Yes, that is the way of it.
46:11: Oh my God.
46:14: Oh, God.
46:17: Well, I know which one I would buy,
46:19: but my guess is that it's number one.
46:22: Snoop Dogg?
46:23: You're right.
46:25: Very good.
46:29: Here's a sample of Snoop Dogg helping you find
46:32: You're way.
46:33: Jesus, freeze up, put your keys up in the ignition and let's turn this thing on.
46:37: There you go.
46:38: You ready to go?
46:39: Carl, how did Susan Arlene do in our quiz?
46:41: Susan, you had a great game.
46:42: Three correct answers, so you win for David Gays.
46:46: Well done.
46:52: I am so proud.
46:54: You should be.
46:55: I really am.
46:56: I'm really proud.
46:58: You know what, Susan, you get a bacon treat.
47:02: Susan Orlean is the author of the new book,
47:05: Rent in 10, The Life in the Legend.
47:07: It's out now.
47:07: Susan, thank you so much.
47:09: Thank you, Pierre.
47:10: Thank you everyone.
47:11: Bye bye, Susan.
47:12: Thank you.
47:13: That was it for this week's Deep Dip
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